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#1 maxanon

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Posted 14 June 2004 - 11:57 AM

Hello,

I'm thinking about a BBQ and was wondering if anyone had a source for Kobe Steak? Preferrably on the western side of St Laurent on the island.

Also, what are the prices like?

Thanks,

Max

Edited by maxanon, 14 June 2004 - 11:57 AM.


#2 cook-em-all

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Posted 14 June 2004 - 03:40 PM

Good Luck, as far as I know you cannot buy retail Kobe style beef in Montreal.
Even if you did it would be absurdly expensive. I was buying it for a little bit wholesale from Morgan Farms in Montanna, and it cost 35$ a POUND, for rib eyes and striploins, it was more expensive for the Filets. Too expensive.

#3 carswell

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Posted 14 June 2004 - 04:53 PM

Good luck, as far as I know you cannot buy retail Kobe style beef in Montreal.
Even if you did it would be absurdly expensive.  I was buying it for a little bit wholesale from Morgan Farms in Montanna, and it cost 35$ a POUND, for rib eyes and striploins, it was more expensive for the Filets. Too expensive.

I've never seen it around town either but you might be interested in the following quotes from Where's the Beef?, a profile of Puslinch, Ontario cattleman Ken Kurosawatsu that appeared in the November 2003 issue of En Route:

Wagyu beef fits right into this scheme of food fetishism. Some of it can be sold at almost $500 a pound in Japan. There, even the supermarket grade goes for about $30 a pound. Pricey but worth it, says Farmer Ken, who sells some of his meat at $50 a pound to Japanese restaurants and specialty butchers in Toronto and Montreal; what’s left of the 35,000 pounds annually is exported to South America and Australia.

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So I head to Montreal’s Kaizen Treehouse, recommended by Kurosawatsu and the only outfit that buys whole Wagyu carcasses from him. There, my guest and I happily secure the last two Kobe steaks off the menu. Penélope Cruz, who happens to be in town filming a movie, breezes into the room. "I hope she’s not here for the beef," I grumble to my dining companion, "’cause I’ll fight her for it."

I ask to see the beef before it’s cooked. With my new-found expertise, I give it a BMS of 7. Twenty minutes later, it emerges from the kitchen flash-grilled, with a good crust on the outside but raw on the inside. I push aside the potato crisp, ignore the broccoli and go straight for the pretty pile of beef slices with my chopsticks.

The first segment liquefies upon entering my mouth. It still has some substance to chew on, but not much. Sweet, velvety and succulent, the fat infiltrates every nook and cranny of my mouth. I have to stop myself from drooling. I hope my fellow diners will pardon my moans because I’m busy having a sensual experience.

Five ounces later, I’m full. It’s a good thing, at 88 bucks a plate. And although I come from solid, rural Canadian stock, a meat-and-potatoes kind of girl, I now understand what the big deal is.

I believe I've also read that kobe beef is grown in Alberta (Cranmore, maybe?). No leads on which specialty butchers, if any, sell it or Kurosawatsu's product.

#4 jersey13

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 04:45 AM

You could try FreshCutz in Marché de L'Ouest in DDO. I can't be 100% certain, but I seem to remember reading that they had Kobe beef. The guy there is Ron Botosan. might be worth a phone call....

HTH

#5 maxanon

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 05:49 AM

Thanks,

I realise that its an indulgence, but I was thinking a couple of pounds grilled and sliced would be a good thing. I'll head over the the Marche de L'Ouest and I'll report here with the findings.

I read that enroute article a ways back and others that speak of the amazing Kobe Beef. I was always hesitant to plunk down that much serious cash for a steak at a resto. But, I'm very intrigued. Thanks for steeling my determination carswell.

Max.

#6 Roger Troutman

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 06:09 AM

The best Kobe beef I've ever had came from Bryant Farms in Pennsylvania.
Love,

Mr. Roger Troutman, who enjoys food and beverages.


CHAIR, INTERNATIONAL DINING RESEARCH INSTITUTE
WASHINGTON, D.C.

#7 carswell

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 08:51 AM

They might know:

Wagyu Canada Inc.
3501 - 57 St.
Camrose AB T4V 4N2
Tel: 780-672-2990 Fax: 780-672-6085
Toll Free: 1-877-672-5623
E-mail: beef@kobeclassic.com
Website: www.kobeclassic.com
President/CEO: Pat McCarthy
General Office Mgr: Kimberly McCarthy
Sales: Pat McCarthy
Product(s): Marbled Wagyu Beef (Bone In, Boneless)
Brand(s): Kobe Classic Beef

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#8 maxanon

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 10:27 AM

I called Fresh Cutz (514-685-2889) and they do have Kobe (different types from sirloin, strip and ribeye).

Now the prices are very quick off the phone and don't quote me on these (as the supply seems kinda scarce) but they range from mid 50s to low 90s/kilo, respectively.

Right now they only have frozen sirloins but they'll get a new shipment next week. Any opinions on frozen steaks? Worth about 55$/kilo?

Max

#9 oceanfish

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 09:42 PM

you could ask at Kaizen, on Ste. Catherine just east of Atwater. I know they buy their Kobe beef from a farmer in Ontario.

#10 SteveW

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 09:39 PM

I went to Fresh Cutz today looking their Canadian Kobe beef, but noticed they have closed operations!!!! I went there last year shortly after they opened, when I was told they had Canadian Kobe beef. I've tried their Canadian Kobe beef a couple of times, & found it very very good(the marbling was incredible). Too bad they have closed.

-Steve

#11 maxanon

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 04:52 AM

Closed? I had some just a month ago from there and didn't see any signs of closing.

That's too bad. Now I need to find a new place

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 09:40 AM

Closed?  I had some just a month ago from there and didn't see any signs of closing.

That's too bad.  Now I need to find a new place

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there still open we did test 3 week ago not impress for the price

call RON 514-865 9059

rib steak 94.00$ kg
filet mignon 150.00 kg

#13 SteveW

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 11:27 AM

They're definitely closed at its original location(I checked it for myself). There's a chance they might of moved(I'd asked around, & was told they went out of business). I'll contact Ron later today.

-Steve

#14 bvus

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 03:38 PM

Maybe mail order?

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#15 SteveW

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 04:11 PM

Just had a extended talk with Ron Botosan of Fresh Cutz. He's still in business, but he doesn't have a storefront anymore. People can order his Canadian Kobe beef over the phone(use the phone# that Hellcook just supplied).

-Steve

Edited by SteveW, 29 September 2004 - 04:12 PM.