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Rhum Agricole: The Topic

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The rum was Clement Blanc,  with the green label.   The syrup was just 1:1 with flat champagne and cane sugar if I remember correctly. 

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Hello!

I recently got my mitts on the Death & Co book and I'm keen to try a number of their recipes calling for a white rhum agricole. They like to recommend particular bottles to achieve a desired flavour profile and they of course recommend la favorite blanc which is popular in many of the NY bars.

 

Being in the UK I have found, as usual, it's a particularly difficult rum to get a hold of. I can however get Trois Rivieres Blanc, Clement Canne Bleue, Rhum J.M. Blanc, J Bally Blanc, HSE Blanc (40%) or Rhum St. Barth. I've come to read there are reasonable differences between brands of Rhum Agricole and I don't want to lose the original intention of the drink so I was interested in the community take in the closest viable alternative. I saw a blog from one of your own (tartines to tiki) who produced a few daiquiris with JM, Clement and La Favorite and the impression I got from this was that they are markedly different, so it might have to be one of the others I can get? 

 

 


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12 hours ago, abenc85 said:

Hello!

I recently got my mitts on the Death & Co book and I'm keen to try a number of their recipes calling for a white rhum agricole. They like to recommend particular bottles to achieve a desired flavour profile and they of course recommend la favorite blanc which is popular in many of the NY bars.

 

Being in the UK I have found, as usual, it's a particularly difficult rum to get a hold of. I can however get Trois Rivieres Blanc, Clement Canne Bleue, Rhum J.M. Blanc, J Bally Blanc, HSE Blanc (40%) or Rhum St. Barth. I've come to read there are reasonable differences between brands of Rhum Agricole and I don't want to lose the original intention of the drink so I was interested in the community take in the closest viable alternative. I saw a blog from one of your own (tartines to tiki) who produced a few daiquiris with JM, Clement and La Favorite and the impression I got from this was that they are markedly different, so it might have to be one of the others I can get? 

 

 

 

Hello @abenc85!

 

La Favorite is excellent! I concur with Death & Co. :) 

As for a substitute, in your list I've tried Trois Rivieres blanc, Clement Canne bleue, J.M blanc, and in my opinion J.M is the closest as far as the flavor profile is concerned (and for use in cocktails), Canne bleue second. I don't care much for Trois Rivieres.

With the J.M make sure you get the higher proof version (50 or 55%, not the watered down 40% version).

 

They are indeed all different, but the differences are subtle. The good ones are all super grassy/vegetal, and then some are more briny than others, some have coconut notes, etc, etc. You can read the Rhum Agricole thread on eGullet for more information/discussion, or Inuakena's very thorough rhum agricole review (he reviewed all the white agricoles that are accessible to us in the US, but note that the flavor profile he goes for isn't necessarily everyone's cup of tea - for example he isn't a fan of La Favorite!).

 

 

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Can you get Neisson? 

 

(She asks, drinking Neisson at the moment.)

 

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Hello and thanks for the replies!

 

Sadly Neisson is the same as la favorite - rarer than a pink giraffe here.

It's the same for inuakena's 2 top rums, Damoiseau and Duquesne!

 

JM @ 50% is easy to obtain. I do have one other option, to get them shipped from France, which will set me back another £20 postage. So my options could potentially be JM for £35, La Favorite for £45 or Neisson for £50. Would the latter 2 warrant such a premium over JM? I'm also concerned about the stability of ongoing supply what with the looming Brexit..

 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, abenc85 said:

Hello and thanks for the replies!

 

Sadly Neisson is the same as la favorite - rarer than a pink giraffe here.

It's the same for inuakena's 2 top rums, Damoiseau and Duquesne!

 

JM @ 50% is easy to obtain. I do have one other option, to get them shipped from France, which will set me back another £20 postage. So my options could potentially be JM for £35, La Favorite for £45 or Neisson for £50. Would the latter 2 warrant such a premium over JM? I'm also concerned about the stability of ongoing supply what with the looming Brexit..

 

 

 

 

 

Get all three! :D

 

More seriously, I would start with J.M since it's available locally to you. Then if you fall in love with rhum agricole, start collecting them!

 

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22 hours ago, FrogPrincesse said:

Get all three! :D

 

More seriously, I would start with J.M since it's available locally to you. Then if you fall in love with rhum agricole, start collecting them!

 

 

Thank you!

 

Trying out JM Blanc to start :D

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I know Death & Co likes to list specific brands (which I in fact find helpful) but I think it might also vary depending on the cocktail. Something boozy (OK, a lot of stuff in the book is pretty boozy!) and agricole forward probably could be impacted by the brand of agricole. But others may not be so dependent on the brand depending on what else is used.

 

@FrogPrincesse as always provides excellent advice and has already covered what I would suggest. Try what you have access to and then move on from there when (not if) you come under the spell of all things agricole!

 

You might well find that to your own palate a different brand is preferable to what is recommended in a particular cocktail book, even one as good as Death & Co.


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On 10/03/2017 at 6:28 PM, tanstaafl2 said:

I know Death & Co likes to list specific brands (which I in fact find helpful) but I think it might also vary depending on the cocktail. Something boozy (OK, a lot of stuff in the book is pretty boozy!) and agricole forward probably could be impacted by the brand of agricole. But others may not be so dependent on the brand depending on what else is used.

 

@FrogPrincesse as always provides excellent advice and has already covered what I would suggest. Try what you have access to and then move on from there when (not if) you come under the spell of all things agricole!

 

You might well find that to your own palate a different brand is preferable to what is recommended in a particular cocktail book, even one as good as Death & Co.

 

 

That might bode well then, as I've noticed of their recipes with Rhum Agricole, a good number of the drinks call for only a small amount as part of a wider mix of rums and modifiers. They have a couple of recipes that are concentric to the spirit, and one of these specifically calls for JM Blanc, so this could work in my favour!

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