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Irradiated Meat

Rail Paul

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gknl

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Some of the best documentary filmmaking ever done.  Why are none are on videotape?

Seems to be his distributer's choice, if not his own. Pretty foolhardy, if you ask me, but what do I know compared to him? I didn't look too hard, but they do sell video copies, but I'm sure it's for an exorbitant price.

http://www.zipporah.com/faq.html

"I am a student/filmmaker/individual without the resources to rent or purchase a film. How can I see a particular Wiseman film?

We have the Wiseman films on deposit at several public libraries and archives throughout the United States. One of the largest collections is at the Museum of Television & Radio in New York City and Los Angeles. Patrons may not remove the films from the premises but there are video booths available to view films and television programs free of charge. If New York and Los Angeles are not convenient please call us and we will let you know if there is a library in your area with any of the films."

Has anyone seen Cinema Verite: Defining a Movement? It's a documentary about the history of cinema verite aka direct cinema. I taped it, but haven't gotten around to watching it yet. http://us.imdb.com/Title?0220364

ediot: damn typos

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ngatti

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There was a place called videohunter.com. This guy dealt in some very hard to get stuff. Usually over the phone and for cash ($45.00 or so).

Place is quite gone now, but I'm sure there are plenty of others. Sheesh, if you can get kiddie-porn over the net...

I got a poor copy of Kubrick's first feature on cassette from this place (Fear and Desire). One that he himself tried to suppress over the years.

ediot: I only used it because I'm a Kubrick freak, and this particular film is quite impossible to get from *any* other source. Not as if I'm condoning purchasing bootlegged copyrighted material. It's just that...well...it's Kubrick man!

Thanx for understanding

Nick

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Seems to be his distributer's choice, if not his own.  Pretty foolhardy, if you ask me, but what do I know compared to him?  I didn't look too hard, but they do sell video copies, but I'm sure it's for an exorbitant price.  

http://www.zipporah.com/faq.html

"I am a student/filmmaker/individual without the resources to rent or purchase a film. How can I see a particular Wiseman film?

We have the Wiseman films on deposit at several public libraries and archives throughout the United States. One of the largest collections is at the Museum of Television & Radio in New York City and Los Angeles. Patrons may not remove the films from the premises but there are video booths available to view films and television programs free of charge. If New York and Los Angeles are not convenient please call us and we will let you know if there is a library in your area with any of the films."

Thanks gknl, great link.

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Human Bean

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Frederick Wiseman's film "Meat"

I've seen it. Very graphic, nothing left to the imagination. Not for the squeamish.

Awhile ago, wasn't someone talking about irradiated meat? :smile:

Nothing I've read tells me that it causes any harmful changes to the meat, but like the other posters, I'm a bit concerned that it might be used as a band-aid to cover up contamination and other bad practices.

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pjs

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Human Bean summed the irradiation question up nicely.

As far as meat safety, don't forget Orville Schell's book "Modern Meat."

Although written over 20 years ago he documents five and a half year-old girls in Puerto Rico going through puberty due to hormone suppliments in poultry.

Nice horror stories about antibiotics too--long before it hit the popular press.

Gotta go, I think my steak is done.

PJ

"Epater les bourgeois."

--Lester Bangs via Bruce Sterling

(Dori Bangs)

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ngatti

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Human Bean summed the irradiation question up nicely.

As far as meat safety, don't forget  Orville Schell's book "Modern Meat."

Although written over 20 years ago he documents five and a half year-old girls in Puerto Rico going through puberty due to hormone suppliments in poultry.

Nice horror stories about antibiotics too--long before it hit the popular press.

Gotta go, I think my steak is done.

PJ

Good Book. Yeah, twenty years. I feel old. :sad:

Nick

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Human Bean

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Thanks, PJ; I've just placed a hold request for Modern Meat online via my local library. It may no longer be modern; I can only imagine that things have got much worse since then.

I can't lay claim for being as old as some people here, but I did see Meat on PBS circa 1977 or so. Since it seems to be more-or-less unavailable and most people probably haven't seen it, a brief description may be in order for the curious, or those few fanciers of bovine snuff films (sick b*stards :smile:.) As it's been a few years, and I've only seen it once, my memory may be faulty.

Meat is a film about slaughterhouses, basically. It shows (in black-and-white, thankfully) pretty much everything involved in turning a cow into a steak. And I mean everything. Then, it does the same for sheep (I'm reasonably sure it was sheep) though more quickly. It's strictly documentary, no propaganda points are made.

[PETA would LOVE this film, for their own reasons. PETA being the "Ethical" group, not People Eating Tasty Animals, which is entirely different.]

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Bean, Having dug the book out and having reread the prologue and the last chapter I don't think you'll be disappointed with it. In the former Schell records a long night he spent with one of his sows (he raised pigs) during a difficult labor and how the judicious use of pharmaceuticals helped the birthing. The use of pharmaceuticals he describes in the rest of the book is anything but judicious.

Ignore the Ralph Nader blurb on the back of the dust cover. I'm sure Schell had nothing to do with it appearing there.

PJ

"Epater les bourgeois."

--Lester Bangs via Bruce Sterling

(Dori Bangs)

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KNorthrup

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I guess this thread is old enough to get a new one, but it was educational.

Latest news.

Giant Food Charged With Deceptive Irradiation Claims

The Associated Press reports that Ahold's Giant Food chain of Maryland has been charged by the Center for Food Safety and Public Citizen with putting deceptive claims about irradiation on educational brochures.

The petition was filed with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), and says that Giant misleads consumers by describing irradiation as similar to milk pasteurization.

"Enough confusion exists about irradiated food," Wenonah Hauter, spokeswoman for Public Citizen, told the AP. "Stores don't need to add to it."

Giant Food spokeswoman Odonna Mathews told the AP that the company hadn't read the complaint yet but stands by the claims on its brochures. "We feel that everything in there is certainly accurate," she said.

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