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This is what I think of as 'pointy head' cabbage.

 

It is a cultivar of Napa cabbage called 请碼白菜 (qīng má bái cài), literally 'green hemp* cabbage' in Chinese.

 

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Whether it's what you are talking about, I don't know.

 

*or 'green sesame'

 

 

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7 hours ago, FeChef said:

I can't find that cabbage anywhere. Seems its common in the UK, and Europe. Not so much in Northeast PA.

Yes.  The recipes that led me to look for them were from UK authors or publications and usually called them hispi or sweetheart cabbages. 

Some of the farmers market vendors in my area started growing them a few years ago.

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3 hours ago, blue_dolphin said:

Yes.  The recipes that led me to look for them were from UK authors or publications and usually called them hispi or sweetheart cabbages. 

Some of the farmers market vendors in my area started growing them a few years ago.

 

I also see them referred to as Conehead or Caraflex cabbages. Article and recipes at Taste:

https://tastecooking.com/caraflex-ultimate-cabbage-flex/

 

Seeds are available for home growing:

 

https://www.reneesgarden.com/products/conehead

 

https://www.johnnyseeds.com/vegetables/cabbage/fresh-market-cabbage/caraflex-f1-cabbage-seed-109.html

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hmmm.  bought stuff labeled "green cabbage" at the supermarket.

forcing my imagination , , , , I can see it might be called "flat cabbage" mentioned - not the usual 'globe' shape....

UFO (white?) squash has similar varieties.

 

not on a worry - sliced it up and dumped it in the corn beef pot - which is still at a simmer . . . .

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On 3/16/2024 at 6:35 AM, liuzhou said:

This is what I think of as 'pointy head' cabbage.

 

It is a cultivar of Napa cabbage called 请碼白菜 (qīng má bái cài), literally 'green hemp* cabbage' in Chinese.

 

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Whether it's what you are talking about, I don't know.

 

*or 'green sesame'

 

 

Stores in my area refer to that as "Chinese lettuce" to distinguish it from "Napa cabbage." I won't speculate on the reasoning behind that description.

“Who loves a garden, loves a greenhouse too.” - William Cowper, The Task, Book Three

 

"Not knowing the scope of your own ignorance is part of the human condition...The first rule of the Dunning-Kruger club is you don’t know you’re a member of the Dunning-Kruger club.” - psychologist David Dunning

 

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1 hour ago, chromedome said:

Stores in my area refer to that as "Chinese lettuce" to distinguish it from "Napa cabbage." I won't speculate on the reasoning behind that description.

 

Chinese lettuce is usually this.

 

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AKA , celery lettuce, asparagus lettuce, sword lettuce or A-choy.

 

Different species. Lactuca sativa var. asparagina.

 

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...your dancing child with his Chinese suit.

 

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I usually stick to red cabbage .

 

now , thanks to eG , 

 

id love to try pointy  head cabbage 

 

looks like that's not going yo happen in my area.

 

 

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1 hour ago, liuzhou said:

 

Chinese lettuce is usually this.

 

celtuce2.jpg.f43b0052c98fcbfd908768d9109d97f0.thumb.jpg.219271bad40e4b987c3ad35980895aa6.jpg

 

AKA , celery lettuce, asparagus lettuce, sword lettuce or A-choy.

 

Different species. Lactuca sativa var. asparagina.

 

celtuce.jpg.89350d4026ca1ca3ca7fbfb33aa87d5f.thumb.jpg.4c31735cf56eeafd7cb587e80f77c0fa.jpg

 

 

Yeah, I don't see that in local stores at all. Completely different.

 

“Who loves a garden, loves a greenhouse too.” - William Cowper, The Task, Book Three

 

"Not knowing the scope of your own ignorance is part of the human condition...The first rule of the Dunning-Kruger club is you don’t know you’re a member of the Dunning-Kruger club.” - psychologist David Dunning

 

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9 minutes ago, chromedome said:

Yeah, I don't see that in local stores at all. Completely different.

 

 

Search the internet for Chinese lettuce and that's what you'll see. Not the cabbage I posted yesterday.

...your dancing child with his Chinese suit.

 

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53 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

 

Search the internet for Chinese lettuce and that's what you'll see. Not the cabbage I posted yesterday.

I don't doubt you in the least. :)

Just reporting the facts on the ground, here in my little backwater.

“Who loves a garden, loves a greenhouse too.” - William Cowper, The Task, Book Three

 

"Not knowing the scope of your own ignorance is part of the human condition...The first rule of the Dunning-Kruger club is you don’t know you’re a member of the Dunning-Kruger club.” - psychologist David Dunning

 

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This flat cabbage is by far the easiest to core and seperate, and produced the largest leaves ive ever seen. I got 24 pretty large leaves, perfect for Holubtsi.

Edit: only had enough filling to make 16 115g Holubtsi's.

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Crock Pot 2 hours on high, 4 hours on low. Probing 165, will pull soon. I had this Crock pot for 25+ years. They dont make them like this anymore. I lost the knob, but it works just as good as the day i bought it 25+ years ago. I still have the lid, just removed it for pics. Its to the left. Its a clear lid.

Delicious.

 

 

 

 

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