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Rice - Usage, Storage, Varieties, etc.


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8 minutes ago, weinoo said:

Jasmine.  Some short grain Japanese.

I've put Lundberg brown Jasmine on my list.  Is short grain Japanese white sushi rice?

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1 hour ago, weinoo said:

It can be. Try white rice, it's better.

White what?  White Jasmine?  Sorry to sound so stunned but I know next to nothing about rice.

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Yes - white jasmine - try to get stuff from Thailand - easily available. White Japanese. I have been also trying some partially milled Japanese rices; I really like them, but they're a little tougher to find, a bit more expensive, well worth it.

 

This California Haiga is partially milled, so has the benefits of brown rice, without the annoying old hippie, health-food store aspect. I really an amazed at its texture and flavor, but I can't vouch for the IP methods; I use my rice cooker. Remember to wash, drain and not use too much water - very close to even amounts of rice and water. 

 

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 Haiga-mai rice, on the other hand, undergoes a special milling process that removes the bran but not the germ, giving it the fast cooking time, tender texture, and easy digestibility of white rice while retaining the nutritious germ of brown rice. Also called semi-polished or half-milled rice, haiga-mai is the best of both rice worlds!

 

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1 minute ago, weinoo said:

Yes - white jasmine - try to get stuff from Thailand - easily available. White Japanese. I have been also trying some partially milled Japanese rices; I really like them, but they're a little tougher to find, a bit more expensive, well worth it.

 

This California Haigai is partially milled, so has the benefits of brown rice, without the annoying old hippie, health-food store aspect. I really an amazed at its texture and flavor, but I can't vouch for the IP methods; I use my rice cooker. Remember to wash, drain and not use too much water - very close to even amounts of rice and water. 

 

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Except it doesn't taste as good as Tamaki Gold.

 

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1 hour ago, JoNorvelleWalker said:

 

Except it doesn't taste as good as Tamaki Gold.

 

 

I found that one on Amazon.ca.  A 6.81 kilogram package costs $194.28 but to lessen the pair, they throw in a $6 pain of chopsticks for free!

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11 minutes ago, weinoo said:

Yes - white jasmine - try to get stuff from Thailand - easily available. White Japanese. I have been also trying some partially milled Japanese rices; I really like them, but they're a little tougher to find, a bit more expensive, well worth it.

 

This California Haigai is partially milled, so has the benefits of brown rice, without the annoying old hippie, health-food store aspect. I really an amazed at its texture and flavor, but I can't vouch for the IP methods; I use my rice cooker. Remember to wash, drain and not use too much water - very close to even amounts of rice and water. 

 

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Available...here (eG-friendly Amazon.com link)

 

I could not find that brand here but I did find Nishiki Haiga Rice.    Is that sort of the same thing?  It's $9.99 for 5 pounds which sure is cheap.  

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17 hours ago, ElsieD said:

 

I found that one on Amazon.ca.  A 6.81 kilogram package costs $194.28 but to lessen the pair, they throw in a $6 pain of chopsticks for free!

We need a "shocked" button!!! 😮😮😮

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I've spent a good part of the past two days reading up on rice and noting the various varieties.  They are now on my list.  I have about 12 of them.  In looking around, most of them seem to come in 10 pound bags or larger which is way too much for testing purposes.   I need to find smaller quantities.  As soon as I can, I will go to a couple of Asian stores that I know carry a large selection and see what I can find.  Lundberg rices, which I am familiar with, are available here at our local store but the store does not carry all of their product.  I'm looking forward to trying some of them out and will report back once I get my hands on some.  We are still under lockdown......

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In my experience most Asian markets trend to bigger quantities. Also the wonderful array of rices is fun but I find knowing the best way to cook each type massively affects the outcome. 

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Asian stores will certainly carry a decent quantity of Asian rices.

 

For Spanish, Italian, Indian, Pakistani, French, American, etc. etc. you may have to look elsewhere.

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I've used Etsy to purchase small amounts of wild rice, there are some different types available.

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On 1/19/2021 at 9:45 AM, ElsieD said:

In looking around, most of them seem to come in 10 pound bags or larger which is way too much for testing purposes.   I need to find smaller quantities.  As soon as I can, I will go to a couple of Asian stores that I know carry a large selection and see what I can find.

 

I have no experience of Asian stores in Canada or the USA, but in my experience in Europe and, more specifically, Asia, your Asian store is likely to be the last place to sell rice in smaller quantities.

 

As I'm sure you know, most Asian people eat rice every day and so buy the stuff in 5 or 10kg bags. That's certainly all my locals stores have.

 

British-Malaysian comedian Nigel Ng has built a whole career talking about this.
 

 

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1 hour ago, ElsieD said:

I've spent a good part of the past two days reading up on rice and noting the various varieties.  They are now on my list.  I have about 12 of them.  In looking around, most of them seem to come in 10 pound bags or larger which is way too much for testing purposes.   I need to find smaller quantities.  As soon as I can, I will go to a couple of Asian stores that I know carry a large selection and see what I can find.  Lundberg rices, which I am familiar with, are available here at our local store but the store does not carry all of their product.  I'm looking forward to trying some of them out and will report back once I get my hands on some.  We are still under lockdown......

Superstore carries a lot of specialty rices in smaller bags, Sobeys as well but to a lesser extent. You'll pay more on a per-weight basis, but it's still a useful way to try a bunch and see what you like. Also there's Bulk Barn, if you have one near you.

I've just finished a bag of red Thai "cargo" rice, which I quite liked. It's basically the same thing as brown rice, except for a slightly different set of phytochemicals giving it its color. I found the flavor quite nice, with a decidedly nutty undertone. I'm also partial to the black "forbidden" rice...I usually use it to make dessert (cooked in coconut milk, you get a rice pudding with a beautiful purple color) but it also works in savory dishes.

 

I'm probably an outlier in the current crowd, in that I favor the whole-grain rices over white for general-purpose eating. I have basmati, arborio and a run-of-the-mill Chinese long-grain white that I use for specific dishes.

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7 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

 

I have no experience of Asian stores in Canada or the USA, but in my experience in Europe and, more specifically, Asia, your Asian store is likely to be the last place to sell rice in smaller quantities.

 

As I'm sure you know, most Asian people eat rice every and so buy the stuff in 5 or 10kg bags. That's certainly all my locals stores have.

 

British-Malaysian comedian Nigel Ng has built a whole career talking about this.
 

 

OOh my - grew up in part with Uncle Ben's converted. Makes an ok pilaf thing but no rice taste. Love the video and the reference to drying your unfortunately drenched phone in rice. Thanks!

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10 minutes ago, heidih said:

reference to drying your unfortunately drenched phone in rice. Thanks!

Vacuum sealer is the master phone dryer. Ask me how I know, LOL

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29 minutes ago, gfweb said:

Vacuum sealer is the master phone dryer. Ask me how I know, LOL

Think we have all been there. From my pocket into 5 gallon bucket full of water. The rice betrayed me but the promise of a good Yelp review got a start up repair service to fix it quickly for free. Humans can in fact work cooperatively.

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9 hours ago, chromedome said:

I'm probably an outlier in the current crowd, in that I favor the whole-grain rices over white for general-purpose eating.

That's what is nice about the haiga rices, or the various levels of milling one can purchase via the Rice Factory. You get a little nuttier flavor, the alleged nutritional advantages, yet they cook quickly, and it's 2021 as opposed to the California health-food store craze of the 1970s.

 

I believe it was George Carlin (since comedians have been brought up) who once asked, back then, why everyone in health food stores looked like they were really sick.

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12 hours ago, chromedome said:

Superstore carries a lot of specialty rices in smaller bags, Sobeys as well but to a lesser extent. You'll pay more on a per-weight basis, but it's still a useful way to try a bunch and see what you like. Also there's Bulk Barn, if you have one near you.

I've just finished a bag of red Thai "cargo" rice, which I quite liked. It's basically the same thing as brown rice, except for a slightly different set of phytochemicals giving it its color. I found the flavor quite nice, with a decidedly nutty undertone. I'm also partial to the black "forbidden" rice...I usually use it to make dessert (cooked in coconut milk, you get a rice pudding with a beautiful purple color) but it also works in savory dishes.

 

I'm probably an outlier in the current crowd, in that I favor the whole-grain rices over white for general-purpose eating. I have basmati, arborio and a run-of-the-mill Chinese long-grain white that I use for specific dishes.

We have a Bulk Barn which is where I bought the tasty basmati brown that I enjoyed so much and which became the impetuous for my little journey.  This red Thai Cargo rice - where did you get it and what is the brand?  @weinoo suggested I try the white jasmine which I will do but I'll also try some of the brown.  Black rice is on my list.

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15 minutes ago, ElsieD said:

We have a Bulk Barn which is where I bought the tasty basmati brown that I enjoyed so much and which became the impetuous for my little journey.  This red Thai Cargo rice - where did you get it and what is the brand?  @weinoo suggested I try the white jasmine which I will do but I'll also try some of the brown.  Black rice is on my list.

 

I'm pretty sure it was at Superstore. Not certain of the brand, because once I'd opened the bag I transferred it to a big Mason jar. It might have been Rooster brand, but I can't vouch for that.

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30 minutes ago, chromedome said:

 

I'm pretty sure it was at Superstore. Not certain of the brand, because once I'd opened the bag I transferred it to a big Mason jar. It might have been Rooster brand, but I can't vouch for that.

I have a Superstore in walking distance so I'll take a look.  Thank you.  Still hunting down camargue.

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On 11/29/2020 at 3:49 PM, weinoo said:

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Is this the one you get, @JoNorvelleWalker?

Found this recently at my favorite Japanese/Asian market. Tokyo Market is up in north Berkeley and has the freshest fish ever, and a huge selection; it's a shlep, so we don't shop there routinely. This rice  is very good! Shorter grain that my usual Kokuho Rose Sushi rice, and a bit more of a bite if the ratio of rice to water is the same, no?

 

Last night we cooked the rice for a hybrid Cajun/Asian shrimp dish, and tonight I'm going to do a simple veg stir fry with cabbage, chinese chives, kohlrabi, choi sum and egg. Fun having a new rice!

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