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Recoil Rob

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Organic, free range from the farm next door. They do about 3 kills a year and we stock up, this one's been thawing in the fridge for 2 days. About 5-6 lbs.

 

I done spatchcocked on the grill with many different rubs/marinades/herbs, most recently with shio koji, all wonderful.

 

I've roasted with salt at high heat in the oven ala Keller, again, a splendid meal.

 

We've butchered into pieces and fried, stewed, sheetpanned, cacciatori'd, oven baked with fruits, eastern spices, western spices, some better than others.

 

I have smoked chicken, seems a waste of time that would be better spent with a brisket.

 

Anything I've missed for a summer meal?

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- Errol Flynn

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15 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

Cantonese white cut chicken.

Hmmm. The recipe I just read says to cool chicken completely in a ice water bath. Is it served cold or at room temperature? Can it be made a day before?

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36 minutes ago, Recoil Rob said:

Hmmm. The recipe I just read says to cool chicken completely in a ice water bath. Is it served cold or at room temperature? Can it be made a day before?

 

I've never seen it cooled in an ice water bath. It is usually served at room temperature. I've only ever had it made on the day it's served.

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Seems to me that rather defeats the point. It is normally partially poached, then left to finish in the residual heat of the cooling poaching medium. 

 

Also, until very recently, few domestic kitchens and many commercial kitchens wouldn't have had the ice for an ice bath. 

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No rotisserie setup. To me rotisserie is a cross between grill and roast. I spatchcock for the grill and truss for the roast.

I'm leaning towards the Canton white, may experiment a little....

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2 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

Seems to me that rather defeats ther point. It is normally partially poached, the left to finish in the residual heat of the cooling poaching medium. 

 

Also, until very recently, few domestic kitchens and many commercial kitchens wouldn't have had the ice for an ice bath. 

 

I agree, probably a simplified process. How long would you actively poach a 5lb chicken and how long would you let it rest in liquid?

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3 minutes ago, Recoil Rob said:

No rotisserie setup. To me rotisserie is a cross between grill and roast. I spatchcock for the grill and truss for the roast.

I'm leaning towards the Canton white, may experiment a little....


Have a look then at Hainanese chicken rice ...

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Dan Silverman's chicken with the crouton bed is really good. I up the bread as "a slice" seems scimpy https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/the-standard-grill-million-dollar-chicken-2145489 or similarly Judy Rodgers Zuni Cafe roast chicken https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1015770-zuni-cafe-chicken

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3 minutes ago, Recoil Rob said:

 

I agree, probably a simplified process. How long would you actively poach a 5lb chicken and how long would you let it rest in liquid?

 

 

I wouldn't know where to find a 5lb chicken. We don't get those artificially fattened birds here. 

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1 hour ago, lemniscate said:

 

I note they have explicit frying instructions for Control Freak users. Is there a corporate connection, or simply a big shared chunk of Venn diagram between the two sets of users?

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5 minutes ago, chromedome said:

 

I note they have explicit frying instructions for Control Freak users. Is there a corporate connection, or simply a big shared chunk of Venn diagram between the two sets of users?

 

Breville purchased Chefsteps over a year ago or so.  So, yeah that's the tie-in, they feature Breville devices in their most recent videos..    I don't have a CF and I make this with my Joule SV and downmarket Burton induction hob, it's a great method for fried chicken.

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Okay, I wondered. I thought it was Anova they'd purchased (maybe it was both?).

 

Either way, I'm sure the Venn diagram applies as well (and that it's a vein they're mining...if customers for my $100-ish product were prime prospects for my $1500-ish product, I'd promote the hell out of it too).

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"Not knowing the scope of your own ignorance is part of the human condition...The first rule of the Dunning-Kruger club is you don’t know you’re a member of the Dunning-Kruger club.” - psychologist David Dunning

 

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1 hour ago, liuzhou said:

 

I wouldn't know where to find a 5lb chicken. We don't get those artificially fattened birds here. 

Like I said, free range, organic.

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13 minutes ago, Recoil Rob said:

Selective breeding is not artificially fattened. We'll have to disagree but thanks for your input.

 

I was agreeing not disagreeing. I breed plants - same diff.

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