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rotuts

rotuts

over here :

 

https://forums.egullet.org/topic/160121-dinner-2020/page/138/?tab=comments#comment-2251422

 

 

I made a burger cut from its container.  nice browning , nice Jus from fond.

 

MC :

 

https://modernistcuisine.com/mc/the-maillard-reaction/

 

for review .

 

Ive had a very nice multi pan set of 3 mm  copper pans w a SS amalgam surface for years.

 

I gave most of them away , as some were very heavy etc  and not the easiest to clean

 

Ive moved to a T-Fal set :

 

TFal.thumb.jpg.de0e8d5cfa0391a554a8081952d294ac.jpg

 

price has gone up !

 

so , remember when all the TalkingHeads , ATK  all of them said you brown the meat to seal the juice  in ?

 

made no sense then , and they have moved on to The Ideal Pan for Fond  which makes your sauce :

 

"" non-stick pans are not ideal for Fond.  heavy SS pans make a lot of Pan-Fond.

 

after inhaling my Salisbury Steak-ish dinner , w browning and pan sauce

 

and several more glasses of Tj's table red :

 

Ive decided this :

 

Fond in your pan + Maillard on your meat  ( maybe veg too )  = a constant

 

the constant has to do w temp of the pan,  time in the pan , and surface area of the meat ( veg)

 

its a given value for those elements.

 

in a fancy-pancy thick expensive pan , not non-stick 

 

more Maillard sticks to the pan , and comes off the meat.

 

in a non-stick pan , more maillard sticks tp the meat . thus less in the pan

 

for Sauce.

 

that's my take on this whole nonsense ;  want more mallard-fond in the pan ?  

 

use an expensive thick non stick pan.  thick = even heat , less chance of burning.

 

if your sauce you make from the Fond goes on the Maillard'd meat ,   its going to make little to no difference in the total result.

 

if you use a good quality nonstick pan,   good quality :  even heat.  very easy clean up.

 

InVinoVaritas   for sure !

 

drunk.jpeg.ec90559a9537c48c83e609f1d2eeb028.jpeg

 

now this has not been studied by me scientifically , w micro-scales etc to measure fond etc

 

now days Im just A Theoretician 

 

sometimes a Thirsty One !

 

 

 

 

rotuts

rotuts

over here :

 

https://forums.egullet.org/topic/160121-dinner-2020/page/138/?tab=comments#comment-2251422

 

 

I made a burger cut from its container.  nice browning , nice Jus from fond.

 

MC :

 

https://modernistcuisine.com/mc/the-maillard-reaction/

 

for review .

 

Ive had a very nice multi pan set of 3 mm  copper pans w a SS amalgam surface for years.

 

I gave most of them away , as some were very heavy etc  and not the easiest to clean

 

Ive moved to a T-Fal set :

 

TFal.thumb.jpg.de0e8d5cfa0391a554a8081952d294ac.jpg

 

price has gone up !

 

so , remember when all the TalkingHeads , ATK  all of them said you brown the meat to keep the juice  in ?

 

made no sense then , and they have moved on to The Ideal Pan for Fond  which makes your sauce :

 

"" non-stick pans are not ideal for Fond.  heavy SS pans make a lot of Pan-Fond.

 

after inhaling my Salisbury Steak-ish dinner , w browning and pan sauce

 

and several more glasses of Tj's table red :

 

Ive decided this :

 

Fond in your pan + Maillard on your meat  ( maybe veg too )  = a constant

 

the constant has to do w temp of the pan  time in the pan , and surface area of the meat ( veg)

 

its a given value for those elements.

 

in a fancy-pancy thick expensive pan , not non-stick 

 

more Maillard sticks to the pan , and comes off the meat.

 

in a non-stick pan , more maillard sticks tp the meat . thus less in the pan

 

for Sauce.

 

that's my take on this whole nonsense ;  want more mallard-fond ion the pan ?  

 

use an expensive thick non stick pan.  thick = even heat , less chance of burning.

 

if your sauce goes on the Maillard'd meat ,   its going to make little to no difference

 

if you use a good quality nonstick pan,   good quality :  even heat.  very easy clean up.

 

InVinoVaritas   for sure !

 

drunk.jpeg.ec90559a9537c48c83e609f1d2eeb028.jpeg

 

now this has not been studied by me scientifically , w micro-scales etc to measure fond etc

 

now days Im just A Theoretician 

 

sometimes a Thirsty One !

 

 

 

 

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