F .BLUMLEIN Steam Convection Oven

[rotuts]

@md8232 

 

BTW

 

do you think this Dutch Oven  will fit in the FBCO ?

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00063RWYI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00063RWYI&linkCode=as2&tag=egulletcom-20&linkId=0692c7f1157a0ea5a5cad00681c5d8c1

 

the product dimensions @ Amazon are not helpful :

 

2 x 2 x 2 inches

 

but the one I have is :

 

12.5 "  wide , @ the handles 

 

and probably 6.5 " tall @ the lids handles   it might be less , hard for me to measure

 

how does this compare w the 7 qt LC ? 

[md8232]

23 minutes ago, rotuts said:

@md8232 

 

BTW

 

do you think this Dutch Oven  will fit in the FBCO ?

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00063RWYI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00063RWYI&linkCode=as2&tag=egulletcom-20&linkId=0692c7f1157a0ea5a5cad00681c5d8c1

 

the product dimensions @ Amazon are not helpful :

 

2 x 2 x 2 inches

 

but the one I have is :

 

12.5 "  wide , @ the handles 

 

and probably 6.5 " tall @ the lids handles   it might be less , hard for me to measure

 

how does this compare w the 7 qt LC ? 

 

 

We just measured ours:

14" wide @ the handles

6 & 3/4" tall at the handle.

 

In the picture, I have it sitting on a rack.  You could remove the rack and place it on the oven floor.  That would gain more room from the handle to the upper heating elements.

Edited May 20, 2020 by md8232
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[rotuts]

Lust is not an appropriate word for 

 

a Family Group

 

such as eG.

 

granted I have not been to MarketBasket for

 

2 months 

 

to get the materials necessary to put the

 

FBCO  through it paces 

 

but ......

 

its up to Amazon

 

andJB

 

did i mention that JB is on Speed Dial 2 one my phone ?

 

I do have a few shares , less than the number of  my fingers fingers 

 

dont you worry 

 

I have Warren Buffet on Speed Dial # 1

 

My toes are close to the BRK-B I have

 

recent discount : 25 %  when I counted my toes.

 

I dont like to call these Moguls

 

Im assuming they are making  very important financial 

 

decisions :

 

Im betting they are not.

Edited May 20, 2020 by rotuts (log)

[md8232]

I'm baking bread!!!  Keep in mind I'm not a baker, and have never made bread in a Steam Oven before.

I borrowed this recipe: 

Easy Bread

Any mistakes that occur are on me. I have a KitchenAid K5SS.  I did the first proof in the bowl.  Then some

kneading and into the pan for the second rise.

If all goes well, I'll have bread in about 10 minutes.  Pics to follow.

[rotuts]

@md8232 

 

very nice

[KennethT]

@md8232 I wish we had a wow button...

[md8232]

OK, it's done.

I used 390° for 20 minutes on a rack.  The rack moved it too close to the top of the oven and almost burned

the top.  The interior was @ 120°, so I removed the rack and placed the loaf pan on the floor.  It took almost

20 minutes more to get the interior to 19x°.

The waiting is over and it is a tasty bread.  I should have waited a few more minutes before cutting, but have

the patience of a small child!

My wife enjoyed it and I'd did too.  Will make again and try to improve my technique.

 

[md8232]

I’ve borrowed a still from the FB video that shows the rubber gasket around the oven.

It is effective at keeping the steam where it belongs.

I am noticing an ongoing sound when in use that I find annoying.  Lots of hearing loss 

and tinnitus, but this noise overcomes that.  Doing beef short ribs for dinner, so we’ll

see how long I can stand the sound.

 

[rotuts]

why anyone wants to cook

 

roast 

 

or Sv 

 

a bone like that

 

rather than cut it off 

 

Beets me 

 

 

 

 

[weinoo]

5 hours ago, md8232 said:

 

  What would I do without the rest of you helping me learn this?

Read the manual?

[gfweb]

10 minutes ago, rotuts said:

why anyone wants to cook

 

roast 

 

or Sv 

 

a bone like that

 

rather than cut it off 

 

Beets me 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a myth that the bone adds flavor. I hear it all the time from the Mayor of Flavortown and others on TV.

 

It does lead to uneven cooking, though.

[gfweb]

5 minutes ago, weinoo said:

Read the manual?

that's no fun

[md8232]

27 minutes ago, weinoo said:

Read the manual?

 

It’s not the readin’, it’s the rememberin’ 

[weinoo]

Trust me, I'm in the same slow boat.

 

Read the manual, over and over and over...

[md8232]

4 minutes ago, weinoo said:

Trust me, I'm in the same slow boat.

 

Read the manual, over and over and over...

This time is worse. Muscle memory of the CSO

gets in the way. 

[rotuts]

Cave-Man  or CowBoy cuts

 

w Big Bone =   $$$$$ profits.

 

bone is sold @ the same rate/lbs as the meat.

[Kerry Beal]

@md8232 - you need to make toast for us as a test -  please and thank you. 

 

I contacted the company - they won't ship to Canada unfortunately - but before I figure out some way to get my hands on one of these I need to know if it can take the place of the CSO on the counter. CSO's first job every morning is toast.

 

The  setting looks like convention 390 F for 8 minutes. 

[rotuts]

yes indeed.

 

CSO shines brightly on toast .

 

worth it just ask a toaster .

 

remember , not everybody here @ eG was ecstatic about the CSO toast.

 

but id say the ( vast ) majority were.

 

since @md8232 is the Index

 

and might be for quite some time 

 

one has to calibrate @md8232 toast-view.

 

back in TheDay

 

Im sure the FBCO  would have ' fit ' in the trunks spare tire area

 

after a flash trip to Buffalo. 

 

Those Were the Days.

[Kerry Beal]

5 minutes ago, rotuts said:

yes indeed.

 

CSO shines brightly on toast .

 

worth it just ask a toaster .

 

remember , not everybody here @ eG was ecstatic about the CSO toast.

 

but id say the ( vast ) majority were.

 

since @md8232 is the Index

 

and might be for quite some time 

 

one has to calibrate @md8232 toast-view.

 

back in TheDay

 

Im sure the FBCO  would have ' fit ' in the trunks spare tire area

 

after a flash trip to Buffalo. 

 

Those Were the Days.

Two issues around that (ie flash trip to Buffalo) - border closed and this particular item is over the weight that it's fair to expect my Buffalo contact to handle!

 

[md8232]

50 minutes ago, Kerry Beal said:

@md8232 - you need to make toast for us as a test -  please and thank you. 

 

I contacted the company - they won't ship to Canada unfortunately - but before I figure out some way to get my hands on one of these I need to know if it can take the place of the CSO on the counter. CSO's first job every morning is toast.

 

The  setting looks like convention 390 F for 8 minutes. 

Toast underway. 
 

I used the bread that I made yesterday for this experiment. 
From L - R. Uncooked, toasted in Magimix & toasted in FB. 

Will repeat later with store bread. 
 

Edited May 21, 2020 by md8232 (log)

[rotuts]

the question is :

 

crusty surface and soft inner 1/2 ?

 

CSO accomplishes this by keeping the fresh breads steam in the sealed CSO box ,

 

so the bread does not dry out under the heat , but browns nicely.

[md8232]

3 minutes ago, rotuts said:

the question is :

 

crusty surface and soft inner 1/2 ?

 

CSO accomplishes this by keeping the fresh breads steam in the sealed CSO box ,

 

so the bread does not dry out under the heat , but browns nicely.

 

By the time I got the color as shown, the bread was completely dry.  I think it is in part due to

how moist the bread remains a day later.  I stored it in a vintage Tupperware bread box which

creates a great seal.

I’m headed to town this afternoon for some Doctorin’ and will return with some fresh bread.

We will repeat the experiment then.

[rotuts]

@md8232 

 

another way to look a this :

 

when you open the FBCO

 

after making ' toast'   

 

( and it seems there my not be a toast setting , 

 

leaving you to decide the bake time and temp , which should not be an issue

 

once you have those numbers down )

 

was there a puff of steam ?

 

if it took long enough to get browning

 

that your toast dried out

 

consider a higher temp  , shorter time ?

 

thanks for doing all this work for me  everybody here on eG that is interested 

 

 

[md8232]

11 minutes ago, rotuts said:

@md8232 

 

another way to look a this :

 

when you open the FBCO

 

after making ' toast'   

 

( and it seems there my not be a toast setting , 

 

leaving you to decide the bake time and temp , which should not be an issue

 

once you have those numbers down )

 

was there a puff of steam ?

 

if it took long enough to get browning

 

that your toast dried out

 

consider a higher temp  , shorter time ?

 

thanks for doing all this work for me  everybody here on eG that is interested 

 

 

 

I think the volume of the oven works against it when making toast.  

Do I use the top rack and risk burning it, or middle rack and never achieve browning?

I’m tempted to preheat the pan, then lightly butter the bread and let er rip.

 

Or... pizza steel if it fits!

Edited May 21, 2020 by md8232
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[rotuts]

@md8232 

 

good points

 

I think there is still hope for great toast from the FBCO

 

however :   there seems to be no ' native ' toast setting 

 

nor instructions for toast in the manual , which I have but have not read.

 

Im guessing FBCO will not replace the CSO for toast , or your favorite

 

non-CSO toaster.

 

just s guess , not based on experience .

 

I and sending you a few Kudos for putting the FBCO

 

through its paces for all of us.