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jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

first, i assert that it's not all about precision. i think they should have had a "classic" mode without temp control (but where temp is displayed!). i.e. you pick power output in watts or percentage or whatever, and there is no closed-loop temp feedback. this would have added no cost to the device and would have made it more versatile.

 

as for my pans, they aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too (where the contact sensor is), right? the power distribution isn't perfectly even across the cooking surface, and there's always going to be a temp gradient as a consequence of finite thermal conductivity.

 

On 7/5/2020 at 10:27 PM, Snowpup said:

 

It's okay.  Not much worse than a large cast iron skillet.

 

The CF will read the temperature from the button of the steel, so will be a little low, but consistent enough to compensate.

flir_20200703T105004.jpg

 

 

even if my pans were ridiculously warped, i think i should still be capable of cooking on them unless there's a technical limitation that physically prevents it from working. why should i not be able to do something just because "computer says no"? especially if i paid a lot of money for it, lol.

 

failure to "detect" usable cookware is an undesirable limitation.

jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

my pans aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too (where the contact sensor is), right?

 

the power distribution isn't perfectly even across the cooking surface, and there's always going to be a temp gradient.

 

On 7/5/2020 at 10:27 PM, Snowpup said:

 

It's okay.  Not much worse than a large cast iron skillet.

 

The CF will read the temperature from the button of the steel, so will be a little low, but consistent enough to compensate.

flir_20200703T105004.jpg

 

finally, i assert that it's not all about precision. even if my pans were ridiculously warped, i think i should still be capable of cooking on them unless there's a technical limitation that physically prevents it from working. why should i not be able to do something just because "computer says no"? especially if i paid a lot of money for it, lol.

 

failure to "detect" usable cookware is an undesirable limitation.

jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

my pans aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too (where the contact sensor is), right?

 

the power distribution isn't perfectly even across the cooking surface, and there's always going to be a temp gradient.

 

On 7/5/2020 at 10:27 PM, Snowpup said:

 

It's okay.  Not much worse than a large cast iron skillet.

 

The CF will read the temperature from the button of the steel, so will be a little low, but consistent enough to compensate.

flir_20200703T105004.jpg

 

finally, i assert that it's not all about precision. even if my pans were ridiculously warped, i think i should still be capable of cooking on them unless there's a technical limitation that physically prevents it from working. why should i not be able to do something just because "computer says no"? especially if i paid a lot of money for it, lol.

 

failure to detect usable cookware is an undesirable limitation.

jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

my pans aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too (where the contact sensor is), right?

 

the power distribution isn't perfectly even across the cooking surface, and there's always going to be a temp gradient.

 

On 7/5/2020 at 10:27 PM, Snowpup said:

 

It's okay.  Not much worse than a large cast iron skillet.

 

The CF will read the temperature from the button of the steel, so will be a little low, but consistent enough to compensate.

flir_20200703T105004.jpg

 

finally, i assert that it's not all about precision. even if my pans were ridiculously warped, i think i should still be capable of cooking on them unless there's a technical limitation that physically prevents it from working. why should i not be able to do something just because "computer says no"? especially if i paid a lot of money for it, lol.

jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

my pans aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too (where the contact sensor is), right?

 

the power distribution isn't perfectly even, and there's always going to be a temp gradient.

 

On 7/5/2020 at 10:27 PM, Snowpup said:

 

It's okay.  Not much worse than a large cast iron skillet.

 

The CF will read the temperature from the button of the steel, so will be a little low, but consistent enough to compensate.

flir_20200703T105004.jpg

 

finally, i assert that it's not all about precision. even if my pans were ridiculously warped, i think i should still be capable of cooking on them unless there's a technical limitation that physically prevents it from working. why should i not be able to do something just because "computer says no"? especially if i paid a lot of money for it, lol.

jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

my pans aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too (where the contact sensor is), right?

 

the power distribution isn't perfectly even, and there's always going to be a temp gradient.

 

On 7/5/2020 at 10:27 PM, Snowpup said:

 

It's okay.  Not much worse than a large cast iron skillet.

 

The CF will read the temperature from the button of the steel, so will be a little low, but consistent enough to compensate.

flir_20200703T105004.jpg

 

finally, i assert that it's not all about precision. even if my pans were ridiculously warped, i think i should still be capable of cooking on them unless there's a technical limitation that physically prevents it from working.

jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

my pans aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too (where the contact sensor is), right?

 

the power distribution isn't perfectly even, and there's always going to be a temp gradient.

 

On 7/5/2020 at 10:27 PM, Snowpup said:

 

It's okay.  Not much worse than a large cast iron skillet.

 

The CF will read the temperature from the button of the steel, so will be a little low, but consistent enough to compensate.

flir_20200703T105004.jpg

 

jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

my pans aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too (where the contact sensor is), right?

jaw

jaw

6 hours ago, blackp said:

If the bottom of your pan is not totally flat and even why would you even consider using a CF?  Assuming that the pan was slightly warped the sensor would be reading the temp close to the centre while one edge may not be even touching the glass therefore not getting the same induction input of those parts of the pan which were touching.  It's all about precision.  If you have an old warped pan toss it or use it on gas.  If on the other hand you are keen to get an even temperature precisely held, then use a decent pan on your CF and get the benefits that you paid for!

 

my pans aren't warped enough to matter in the way you suggest. also, you realize there's a gap in the field in the center of the resonator too, right?

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