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St.Patrick and his Corned Beef


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6 hours ago, liuzhou said:

Something I've never understood. Why does America 'celebrate' St. Patrick's Day at all? Don't tell me it's only those with Irish ancestry.

Why do Americans celebrate Cinco de Mayo? It's not just American Mexicans who celebrate the day (and they don't really....the important day to celebrate for Mexican Americans is actually in September 16th which is Mexican Independence Day).

As for St. Paddy's Day, it's a reason to drink alcohol and eat good food. Who needs an excuse?

 

And why corned-beef, something Patrick almost certainly never ate? 

As for the corned beef...it's an American knock-off of something the Irish ate back in the old country. More here (click).

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6 hours ago, liuzhou said:

Something I've never understood. Why does America 'celebrate' St. Patrick's Day at all?

 

 

We have a Catholic church near us that has a "French Market" event every year.  We also have a Greek Orthodox church that hosts a greek festival annually.

 

One of the perks of living in a multicultural society is being able to pile onto/into ethnic events.

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47 minutes ago, Toliver said:

Why do Americans celebrate Cinco de Mayo? It's not just American Mexicans who celebrate the day (and they don't really....the important day to celebrate for Mexican Americans is actually in September 16th which is Mexican Independence Day).

As for St. Paddy's Day, it's a reason to drink alcohol and eat good food. Who needs an excuse?

 


And why corned-beef, something Patrick almost certainly never ate? 

As for the corned beef...it's an American knock-off of something the Irish ate back in the old country. More here (click).

I like any holiday anywhere to celebrate and make different food than "normal" .  

 

It's dumping snow here --also the traditional day here in KS to plant potatoes.  Not happening :)  We are all cozy and warm and looking forward to homemade corned beef.

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True, corned beef isn't Irish.  Green beer isn't Irish.  St. Patrick wasn't Irish and he didn't introduce Christianity to Ireland nor did he banish all the snakes. St. Patricks Day in Ireland is a religious  holiday. In the United States it's based in part on what Irish immigrants ate in America because they were too poor to afford much of anything else.  And they didn't  save it for once a year.  Our St. Patricks day is an Irish/ American concept embellished and enlarged upon by some  people who would have trouble finding Ireland on a map.  It's a fun holiday for anyone who wants to eat and drink too much and pretend they are a little bit Irish, if only for a day. 

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17 minutes ago, Norm Matthews said:

True, corned beef isn't Irish.  Green beer isn't Irish.  St. Patrick wasn't Irish and he didn't introduce Christianity to Ireland nor did he banish all the snakes. St. Patricks Day in Ireland is a religious  holiday. In the United States it's based in part on what Irish immigrants ate in America because they were too poor to afford much of anything else.  And they didn't  save it for once a year.  Our St. Patricks day is an Irish/ American concept embellished and enlarged upon by some  people who would have trouble finding Ireland on a map.  It's a fun holiday for anyone who wants to eat and drink too much and pretend they are a little bit Irish, if only for a day. 

 

Yup.

 

And St P's day gives me a reason to have CB leftovers for reubens.

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19 minutes ago, Norm Matthews said:

True, corned beef isn't Irish.  Green beer isn't Irish.  St. Patrick wasn't Irish and he didn't introduce Christianity to Ireland nor did he banish all the snakes. St. Patricks Day in Ireland is a religious  holiday. In the United States it's based in part on what Irish immigrants ate in America because they were too poor to afford much of anything else.  And they didn't  save it for once a year.  Our St. Patricks day is an Irish/ American concept embellished and enlarged upon by some  people who would have trouble finding Ireland on a map.  It's a fun holiday for anyone who wants to eat and drink too much and pretend they are a little bit Irish, if only for a day. 

 

Yes. But why St. Patrick's Day? Why not, say, St. Andrew's Day? Equal opportunity to eat, drink and be merry.

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55 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

 

Yes. But why St. Patrick's Day? Why not, say, St. Andrew's Day? Equal opportunity to eat, drink and be merry.

Oh hell why St Valentine? Allegedly the arrival of Christianity in Ireland but ?   Yes I know the Christianization of ancient rites like Halloween, Easter etc but nobody cares. It is goofy and does not hurt; merchants especially.

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1 hour ago, heidih said:

nobody cares

 

I do. Out of idle curiosity. It is a bit odd when you think about it.

 

1 hour ago, heidih said:

It is goofy and does not hurt; merchants especially.

 

Yes, but that doesn't explain why St. Pat in particular. It could be any 'saint'.

 

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A friend of mine - Newfoundland Irish - jokingly refers to the whole exercise as "cultural inappropriation."

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an excuse to sell more stuff.

 

CB is rarely cooked for most people 

 

here in USofA outside SPD.

 

and @gfweb is correct.

 

its the Pre-day to CBsandwiches.  CB is also much cheaper

 

2 weeks before SPD  ( in the East , neat BOS )

 

it gets people in the mood to buy stuff at the grocery store.

 

I have no idea if CB was ever on sale in California , where I grew up.

 

and I used to SV 10 - 12 CB , cut down to 1/4 size 

 

SV , then lightly cold smoke , re-bag and freeze

 

cheap , very very tasty , and I still have a few bags in the freezer(s).

 

makes a fine sandwich any time , esp the cold smoked , esp in the summer 

 

when it warm

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44 minutes ago, Shelby said:

Had to go to the store today to get prescriptions so did some shopping.  Corned beef on sale for 2.99/lb which is good for around here.  I now have 4 corned beefs in the freezer for later :) 

Sounds like me...I have three in the freezer but I'm not sure I can stop myself from buying yet another.

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23 hours ago, Shelby said:

Had to go to the store today to get prescriptions so did some shopping.  Corned beef on sale for 2.99/lb which is good for around here.  I now have 4 corned beefs in the freezer for later :) 

 

I do my grocery shopping on Saturdays. I made a special trip to one of the green grocers in the area since I have my brother and his wife coming for dinner. Corned Beef was still at $8.99/lb. I would have picked up a couple for the freezer but skipping it for now.

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My husband decided he wanted corned beef so he bought a small Nathan's bagged corned beef/seasonings included and I'm simmering it so it will be ready for dinner tonite. No traditional sides, made coleslaw per his request (hey, it's cabbage) and he bought some potato knishes (see? potato). I do not eat beef, so it will be all his for the next 2 days.

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52 minutes ago, dans said:

 

I do my grocery shopping on Saturdays. I made a special trip to one of the green grocers in the area since I have my brother and his wife coming for dinner. Corned Beef was still at $8.99/lb. I would have picked up a couple for the freezer but skipping it for now.

Yeah, that's a bit pricey.  That's what it is when it's not on sale here.

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42 minutes ago, Shelby said:

Yeah, that's a bit pricey.  That's what it is when it's not on sale here.

Here it seems non existent except around this time. 

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We can get it most of the year, but it is cheapest after StPD.

 

Uncorned brisket is generally cheaper and a better CB after you do the work.

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For years when I lived in Hot Springs, I spent St. Pat's at the racetrack, watching the Rebel Stakes and eating corned beef sandwiches. Oaklawn gets their corned beef from somewhere in Chicago and cooks up about a million of 'em, and sells corned beef sandwiches for $10 with at least half a pound of meat on them.  They're wonderful.

 

Best brisket I ever corned was in fact not beef, but buffalo. Fine sandwiches. And let us not forget corned beef hash in our recitation of after-benefits of St. Pat's.

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On 3/20/2021 at 9:26 AM, dans said:

 

I do my grocery shopping on Saturdays. I made a special trip to one of the green grocers in the area since I have my brother and his wife coming for dinner. Corned Beef was still at $8.99/lb. I would have picked up a couple for the freezer but skipping it for now.

It was a similar situation at the Walmart Grocery Store. "Why reduce the price just because the holiday has passed? They'll still buy it full-price".

It wasn't priced as highly as yours at the Walmart and it turned out to be the worst piece of meat (tough as shoe leather!) I've ever purchased, at Walmart or elsewhere.

Live and learn...>:(

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