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St.Patrick and his Corned Beef


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I buy the biggest corned beef brisket in the Sam's meat case. Cook in the Instant Pot. Serve with potatoes, carrots, onions, turnips, cabbage & all the trimmings. It's a huge favorite meal in our house. The Instant Pot makes cooking it a breeze. 

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1 hour ago, Jaymes said:

I buy the biggest corned beef brisket in the Sam's meat case. Cook in the Instant Pot. Serve with potatoes, carrots, onions, turnips, cabbage & all the trimmings. It's a huge favorite meal in our house. The Instant Pot makes cooking it a breeze. 

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I'm putting this here even though it's goose.  Corned some goose breasts.  Did them in the IP for an hour and a half.  Good texture and ok taste.....I think next time I need to inject them with the brine and use more pickling spice.  

 

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9 minutes ago, Shelby said:

I'm putting this here even though it's goose.  Corned some goose breasts.  Did them in the IP for an hour and a half.  Good texture and ok taste.....I think next time I need to inject them with the brine and use more pickling spice.  

 

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I noticed my store is selling the point cut for $1 more per pound than the flat cut.

I always thought the flat cut was best as the grains is more regular.

Which is really the better cut?

 

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5 hours ago, btbyrd said:

 

 

I usually go 140F for 48hrs, but want to go higher/faster this year. Kenji suggests 180F for 10 hours. Anyone got experience with higher temps?


Same here. Most of the temperature/time combinations for a  “traditional” texture aim for 82 oC (180 F) and 10h. I found one recipe using that temperature and 8h cooking time and it seems to work fine, too. Some compare it to crockpot results, which usually use a setting that goes up to 85 oC and a cooking time of 8h.

 

So, although it doesn’t help you in terms of first hand experience, I will go for 82 oC and 10h this year ...

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@lindag 

 

there are two pectoral muscles , on Man and Beast

 

the point is the Minor , and under the Major , which is the flat.

 

the point in beef has more intra-muscular fat , and more fat around the

 

cut that's in the bag you buy.   And more connective tissue i think.

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the actual muscle in each tastes the same, 

 

but depending on your cooking method , the point might have more fat 

 

within the muscle , and thus have more flavor.   the flat cooked by the same method (s)

 

\w/0 the fat , tends to dry out.

 

SV is a very fine way to cook CB , but it will take more time.

 

but you can do it ahead in the bag , chill , and re-therm.

 

use the bag juices to cook the potatoes , carrots and cabbage.

 

 

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In my high temp experiment I ended up going for 9 hours at 175F. Definitely had more moisture loss than 48hrs at 140 and had a firmer texture, but for the purposes of making a delicious sandwich, it was a perfectly acceptable time/temp combo.

 

Obligatory Reuben:

 

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I also made some pastrami, but it’ll be a few days before I feel able to eat such a sandwich. Need some time to recover from this one!

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Im pleased you are enjoying your sandwich 

 

How ever :

 

the meat :

 

"" Definitely had more moisture loss ""

 

would that moisture loss have added to the deliciousness 

 

of your sandwich ?  had it not been lost ?

 

""  a delicious sandwich, "

 

""  perfectly acceptable time/temp combo. ""

 

but not 

 

way beyond acceptable ?

 

I only mention this for others :

 

SV : so easy to do ahead , and store.

 

time, therefore is not an issue w SV

 

True Students of SV understand this

 

once understood ,  

 

its possible to

 

easily 

 

be way way way 

 

beyond

 

" acceptable '

 

but to all of us . 

 

to each of us , our own

 

Im enjoying  a 48 H x 140 F

 

trance , that's 2 year old !

 

delici9us then , still delicious now.

 

 

 

 

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Time is definitely an issue with SV. You can work around it by cooking strategically, sure, but sometimes you just have to cook something more quickly than lower temps allow. I am a big proponent of cooking in batches at low temps for long times and freezing the surplus, but I only buy corned beef once a year and I don't have unlimited freezer space, so my stores are usually depleted sometime in the fall. This time, I was in a time crunch to make a Reuben kit/gift-bag for a family member who was returning home after a long hospital stay, and I'd already eaten all my frozen 48/140F corned beef from last year. Even the best True Students of SV sometimes need something cooked right-the-****-now. This was one of those times.

 

As for the moisture loss and acceptability, I honestly don't think it mattered for the way that I was preparing it. I slice my corned beef across the grain as thinly as is possible without the use of a deli slicer. If you're going to eat big hunks of corned beef and cabbage, or for some reason like really thick slices on the sandwich, it's probably worth it to go the extra time. But if you like it thinly sliced? And are going to be slathering it with Russian dressing, kraut, and melted cheese? I don't think that the extra time makes for a better product. I'm not even sure it makes for an appreciably different product by the time it's on the plate; my Reuben was as delicious as it always is (and I've always gone 48/140 previously). Of course, I didn't do the Pepsi Challenge and compare them side by side. But the meat was tender and not-at-all-dry. You could have piled it twice as high and still bitten cleanly through it without a struggle (except, perhaps, for the initial discomfort of unhinging your jaw). Even though the brisket was cut from the flat, it was nevertheless on point. Way beyond acceptable. 10/10, would make again.

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???

 

1 )  """  perfectly acceptable """

 

is now 

 

2 ) "" Way beyond acceptable. ""

 

well all our personal standards are after all , our own.

 

"  right the fuck now ''

 

as this is  Fanily Forum

 

won't comment

 

""  Students of SV ....  "

 

no they don't.

 

sill Im pleased you personally enjoyed your resuts

 

1 ) or now 2 )

 

others , through experience w SV

 

have already ( experienced ) the totality of the SV Threads here,

 

might look at the process differently 

 

or those just starting out

 

might read over the entire SV thread

 

then might give your version SV 

 

at those temps

 

some thought.

 

id just say to the New-Bees :

 

read over the thread .

 

then decide for yourself.

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Enjoy everyone. I can’t stand it. Ironically my birthday is St. Patrick’s Day and my paternal family is 100% Irish. I’m definitely going to indulge in seafood or Asian food or both! 

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5 hours ago, MetsFan5 said:

Enjoy everyone. I can’t stand it. Ironically my birthday is St. Patrick’s Day and my paternal family is 100% Irish. I’m definitely going to indulge in seafood or Asian food or both! 

Happy birthday!

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When we picked up our Fish & Chips from the local Catholic church we inquired about their St. Patrick's day dinner.   Seems they're going to try to have it in July.

This town is only about 2500 population.  I don't know how big the congregation is.

The St. P dinner is their really important fund raiser and it normally draws a big crowd.  I'm sure they're hoping they can have a 'normal' event and hold it indoors.  Last year they just had to cancel it altogether.  That was really a shame since they put together the very best corned beef I've ever had.

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7 hours ago, MetsFan5 said:

Enjoy everyone. I can’t stand it. Ironically my birthday is St. Patrick’s Day and my paternal family is 100% Irish. I’m definitely going to indulge in seafood or Asian food or both! 

You and my cousin Pat. :P (My uncle married into a very Catholic family; in fact when her parents died they donated their family property as the site for a church to be built for their growing community.)

Happy birthday!

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Something I've never understood. Why does America 'celebrate' St. Patrick's Day at all? Don't tell me it's only those with Irish ancestry.

And why corned-beef, something Patrick almost certainly never ate? He certainly didn't drink Guinness which wasn't invented until around 1,200 years after his time.

 

He was never canonised as a saint.

And he wasn't Irish!

Can anyone point me to a rational explanation? i have looked.

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there id no reasonable explanation

 

because it does not exist.

 

why corned beef ?

 

ConAgra  or AgraCon ?

 

Im sure it has something to do

 

dans le plate

 

with what "" Irish "" ate 

 

it boiled  ( to death )

 

but its escapes me

 

and in the Era Before 

 

in Irish immigrant neighborhoods 

 

it was a time to have a '' traditional ""

 

boiled dinner 

 

and drink a lot of beer and

 

do foolish things 

 

https://www.history.com/topics/st-patricks-day/history-of-st-patricks-day

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29 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

Something I've never understood. Why does America 'celebrate' St. Patrick's Day at all? Don't tell me it's only those with Irish ancestry.

And why corned-beef, something Patrick almost certainly never ate? He certainly didn't drink Guinness which wasn't invented until around 1200 years after his time.

And he wasn't Irish!

Can anyone point me to a rational eplanation? i have looked.

As many cultures do, we clutch at excuses for holidays. After Valentines on Feb 14 there is a gap till Easter which jumps around. Plus it is portrayed as happy jolly  with a "green light" for all day boozing AND you get to pinch anyone who does not wear something green. That is my take from the marketing/consumer angle.

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3 hours ago, liuzhou said:

Can anyone point me to a rational explanation? i have looked.

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