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I just did some looking at the gas flush option on the Henkelman, Sammic and Minipack.

Henkelman charges ~$212 for the gas flush option.  It comes standard on the Sammic S series and the cost is close to the same as the T series (which is without gas flush).

On the Minipack, gas flush is a $625 option on a new machine!  So their add-on kit is the same price as when ordered new with a machine.  I wonder what the kit contains to make it nearly 3 times the cost of the Henkelman?  

 

How would you rate these three units?  I know all have Busch pumps, so they are even there.  How would you rate the other items? (overall construction, user controls, ease of use etc).  


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Wow, great score on the Minipack!

 

I have a Minipack 35, and have always been interested in the gas flush option. Too bad about the cost. I don't know what's in the kit, not sure if it can be duplicated with off the shelf parts, or if it has new electronics in it as well. 

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I have a Sammic 310 but have never used the gas flush capability so I am sorry but I can't help assess that function for you. I didn't buy my Sammic for that but hearing the cost of the 'add-on' for other machines, I guess I am glad mine already has it so I won't have to reinvest down the line should I need it. However, the base machine is great - I love it. My only issue is that I probably don't use it often enough to justify the initial cost. I would say it is built like a 'brick ****house' if that kind of language were allowed here. Not much 'learning curve' for a novice either (so 'user controls' are pretty simple in my opinion). Mine is equipped to do retort bags (which was a priority for me when I purchased this unit).

 

Sounds as though you got a great deal on your MiniPack though so you will probably be further ahead in the long run even buying the extra capability than I bought at full price.


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I did get a great deal, only 2000 and it is essentially new!  :-) 

 

I did some more work on the gas kit.  There is a description of the kit on this schematic. Look at the bottom of page 2 and the diagrams

http://helpcenter.minipack.us/faqbookpro/Mike/FM112215_1_Ricambi_MV45X_2_Barre_Laterali_1.pdf

 

It looks to be some plumbing and tubing parts, 4 nozzles and a "Solenoid valve for gas" Part # FE140003 and a pressure switch part # FE470000.

 

Maybe I will open mine up and see if I can find the wire harness.  If so, it shouldn't be too hard to change one of the programs to gas flush and see if I get output on the wires and at what voltage.  I am guessing it will be 120v line voltage since I don't think there is a low voltage control circuit in this unit.  

 

Does anyone have a closeup pic of what the gas flush nozzles look like on a minipack, or actually any unit?  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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So I took the back off of my MVS45XII last night and it looks like there isn't anything already installed for the gas flush kit other than the wires for the gas solenoid and pressure switch and holes drilled in the tub for the nozzles (plugged with an allen bolt with a nut on the backside).  So I would need everything in the KR450A13 kit, including the plumbing parts.  I am pretty confident I could source the pressure switch and solenoid at a significant savings.  The pressure switch just closes the circuit when there is adequate pressure (~20-50 psi) on the gas inlet.  This is to avoid the gas flush running without anything attached or when the gas tank is low.   The solenoid is a very common item easily sourced locally. 

But it may not be worth it after looking at all the various plumbing parts and needing to rig some type of bulkhead fitting for the nozzles that protrude through the chamber tub (they would have to withstand the vacuum as well).

I guess I will start to save to justify the ~$625 kit price.  :-)

 

 

 


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Thanks for looking in to this. I bought a Minipack in part because I wanted the option for gas flush, but I never pursued it. After using my sealer for a couple of years I am not honestly sure how much use I'd get out of the gas flush add-on, so I would love to hear from anyone who has one. 

 

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How does the gas flush work for things such as Artisan Breads?  Does it help at all if I was going to freeze a loaf?  How long would it extend the life at room temperature on the counter?  

I know there is nothing better than a fresh loaf out of the oven, or merely a few hours old, but I often bake a bit too much and would like to save a loaf or two for a few days.  Also would Nitrogen or carbon dioxide be best?

 

 


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59 minutes ago, Nowayout said:

How does the gas flush work for things such as Artisan Breads?  

 

This is what I am most interested in, too. If I can use a nickel of plastic and gas to extend the life of $5 of bread, that would be great. 

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For those interested in a chamber vacuum sealer, Webstaurantstore is having a sale through 5/25/16.

 

Here is a link to it: http://www.webstaurantstore.com/ary-vacmaster-vp112s-chamber-vacuum-sealer/120VMASVP112.html

 

This is the same one I have and I love it. Through 5/25 it's just $478.99 with free shipping when you use the coupon code VMASTER. 


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I have this one as well and has worked flawlessly for me. There are better ones out there, but what convinced me was its relative light weight compared to oil pump models.

 

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Yep.  Will cover any household need and light commercial.  And at approx 50# can be moved.  First time I've seen it under 5 bills.

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I already have a sealer but I passed this info on to a friend of mine and he went for it. Thanks for sharing!

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