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KatieLoeb

PLAN: "Heartland" Gathering (In Philly) 2012

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I just found the coolest thing online. Anyone ever heard of Strayboots.com?? I think I'm going to check this out when I'm travelling next. But I think it could be a totally fun thing to do during the Heartland Gathering. I've lived in Philly for a really long time. Lived longer here than I haven't, in fact. I'd love to find a new side of my city and I think doing an Amazing Race type trivia tour/treasure hunt would be a really fun activity. We'll have some time Friday morning or late afternoon to perhaps explore this idea. We could do the tour of Old City before our dinner at Zahav perhaps. The beauty of this idea is that it's totally flexible timing wise. Could be a blast. What do you think?


Katie M. Loeb
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So (Katie/Bob, please correct me if I'm wrong here...) cost-wise we are currently looking at:

Thursday, August 9, 2012

evening: TBA

Friday, August 10, 2012

morning/early afternoon: tour of Italian Market and sandwiches for lunch at Paesano's

~$10

evening: Dinner at Zahav

$70

Saturday, August 11, 2012

morning/early afternoon: RTM

~$10

evening: dinner at Reading Terminal Market Rick Nichols Room

$20 + food cost (estimate at $30)

Sunday, August 12, 2012

morning/early afternoon: Szechuan brunch, Han Dynasty

$30

Total for all meals Friday-Sunday is therefore something in the neighborhood of $170 per person plus beverages.

(Also, my plus one and I will be doing tourist/family stuff on our own during downtime between meals, so no interest on other planned tourist stuff)


Chris Hennes
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Chris:

Those are good ballpark figures. I'll be as specific as possible as soon as I hear back from everyone else with numbers etched in stone. I sent an email to the event coordinator at Zahav and asked about a flat $65 or $75/person charge inclusive of tax and gratuity and with the kitchen adding a little extra somethin' somethin' to the regular tasting menu. I'm also going to find out the cost for a guided group tour of the Italian Market given by a local author that wrote the Italian Market Cookbook. Maybe we could do that in the early afternoon on Friday, still have sandwiches at Paesano's, have time for a gelato at Capogiro for dessert, do the StrayBoots tour of Old City in the late afternoon and have time still to shower and change for our slightly later dinner. Sound like a plan??


Katie M. Loeb
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Have just found out that this is happening in my back yard... count me in for everything. (Why is this planning happening on the midwest board? I never read here, and there's been no mention on the PA board that has caught my attention...)


Christopher D. Holst aka "cdh"

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Chris:

The thread just got moved here. Makes sense although I'm still a bit confused as to how we qualify as "Heartland". But excited for the events we have lined up. Should be a blast and I'm really looking forward to all of it. Glad you'll be joining us!


Katie M. Loeb
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I'll be somewhat incommunicado for the next few days. If anyone has any serious issues, please inbox me with a private message or email me. Otherwise, I'll set up the EventBrite stuff next weekend or early next week and we can start getting some committments for each event.


Katie M. Loeb
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Just noticed that our get-together weekend coincides with an annual event out in the countryside by me. The http://goschenhoppen...k-festival.html is happening on the 10th and 11th. Folks up for an automotive expedition out into historical PA Dutch country could get a taste of a number of old fashioned PA Dutch foodways... they usually have somebody doing a 18thC and a 19thC butchering of pig/cow, tasty stuff like ground cherry pie, and plenty of other things of interest to food-loving folks.

Our schedule seems to permit some time wandering the world, and those coming in might get a kick out of it. It would be about an hour's drive from Center City.


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Christopher D. Holst aka "cdh"

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Am sorry, VERY sorry, to say that my best-laid plans to attend and spend real time in Philly for the first time since I moved away have been pre-empted by mini-crisis at work calling all hands back early. Really disappointed not to meeting you all in one of my favorite places.

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That weekend doesn't work for me either. :( Would have loved to see the Philly Folks again. I might just have to plan another trip up there, maybe in the fall.


Heather Johnson

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I'm happy the thread has moved here; since I seldom venture beyond the PA forums, I discovered it only last week.

The not-so-fighting Phillies are home against St. Louis that weekend. Although technically sold out, ample seats and standing room should be available due to my compound adjective in the previous sentence.

Our events should be much more fullfilling, anyway. I expect to participate extensively; I'll post details once I coordinate with several potential co-conspirators.


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I'm out of town. Sadly.

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Since I can't edit my old post: a change. It'll just be me at Zahav (too late for my +1). Han Dynasty will be me +1.

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Query on the RTM "potluck" thing. 1) were I to bring homebrew, would the RTM have issues with alcohol of outside provenance, 2) are we getting any preferential loading/unloading areas?... the idea of schlepping kegs/cases on a SEPTA train seems well past the not-worth-it threshold... as does the idea of paying $20 to park and having to schlep cases/kegs around center city...

I'd imagine others have similar logistical concerns if they're bringing more than a bag of groceries.


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I don't know about the load in information for the RTM. I'll leave that to rlibkind. I have a message to him awaiting a response.

This just in, however. I have made contact with local historian/cookbook author Celeste Morello. She is available to be our tour guide for the Italian Market on Friday afternoon. Cost is $35/person or $350 for a group of 10 or more people with stops along the way for tastes and her impeccable knowledge of the market. Her tours have been featured in many local and national magazines as the best in the city for the Italian Market. You can read more about it HERE. I would be interested in doing this if others feel the same way. But my budget doesn't include travel expenses, so I don't want to presume on behalf of anyone else's wallets. I certainly think a professionally led tour would be really interesting, and I'm certain I'll learn a lot of things I don't know about the Market even though I'm a local. So what say ye? I told Ms. Morello I'd get back to her after the weekend. Let me know if there's interest in this.


Katie M. Loeb
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Query on the RTM "potluck" thing. 1) were I to bring homebrew, would the RTM have issues with alcohol of outside provenance, 2) are we getting any preferential loading/unloading areas?... the idea of schlepping kegs/cases on a SEPTA train seems well past the not-worth-it threshold... as does the idea of paying $20 to park and having to schlep cases/kegs around center city...

I'd imagine others have similar logistical concerns if they're bringing more than a bag of groceries.

1. Still waiting to hear back from RTM on ouside alcohol.

2. If unloading is required, arrangements can be made for using the RTM loading area .. but for unloading only. Unlike the Atlantic City on the Monopoly board, there is no free parking in Philadelphia! However, a slightly less expensive garage is operated by the Philadelphia Parking Authority (PPA), which charges $18 for 3 to 12 hours; it's located at between 9th and 10th Street, along Filbert St., two blocks from the RTM. The private garages adjacent to the RTM would charge $24 for 2 hours, $29 for 2-to-12 hours.

MOST IMPORTANT REGARDING THE POTLUCK

We're getting use of the RTM facilities at cost (i.e., direct security and maintenance costs) because we'll be buying as many ingredients as possible within the Market. (Except perhaps for the rarest of spices or an incredibly esoteric ingredient, there's hardly anything that can't be found at the RTM.)

As Katie said a year ago upthead: "having it right at Reading Terminal would be like having the world's best pantry laid out at our feet."

Chris Hennes, way upthread, had asked if there's space for about a dozen people to simultaneously cook. Contrary to the info I had before the kitchen was constructed, it can't accommoate a dozen cooks simultaneous. It's a demonstration kitchen, not a production kitchen. I've seen three or four professional chefs work on one dish each there, but that's pretty much the limit. In addition, we won't have access to the kitchen until after 3 p.m. when the Pennsylvania Dutch Festival ends.

To quote Katie from upthread again: "It occurs to me that we might have to cook in shifts and time this out with military precision, and it being the hell fire of a Philly August, we might want to go for more cold and room temperature dishes that don't require burner and/or oven space".

Sounds like a fine idea to me. I also recommend that the active kitchen space be devoted to use by those traveling-from-afar rather than locals. I, for one, plan to make a dish from RTM ingredients at home the day before that would, at most, just require plating at the potluck. Say, gapacho, which benefits from an overnight in the fridge anyway.

Of course, I may be worrying a bit unnecessarily about how to accommodate a dozen cooks and three dozen diners. To update Prasantrin's count, at the current time I see only 9 firm attendees Saturday evening:

Chris Hennes + 1

Tokaris

Prasantrin +1

Kerry Beal

Katie

Noinacs

Me

If there are others who plan to attend the Saturday "pot luck", please post post-haste.


Bob Libkind aka "rlibkind"

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Query on the RTM "potluck" thing. 1) were I to bring homebrew, would the RTM have issues with alcohol of outside provenance, 2) are we getting any preferential loading/unloading areas?... the idea of schlepping kegs/cases on a SEPTA train seems well past the not-worth-it threshold... as does the idea of paying $20 to park and having to schlep cases/kegs around center city...

I'd imagine others have similar logistical concerns if they're bringing more than a bag of groceries.

1. Still waiting to hear back from RTM on ouside alcohol.

2. If unloading is required, arrangements can be made for using the RTM loading area .. but for unloading only. Unlike the Atlantic City on the Monopoly board, there is no free parking in Philadelphia! However, a slightly less expensive garage is operated by the Philadelphia Parking Authority (PPA), which charges $18 for 3 to 12 hours; it's located at between 9th and 10th Street, along Filbert St., two blocks from the RTM. The private garages adjacent to the RTM would charge $24 for 2 hours, $29 for 2-to-12 hours.

MOST IMPORTANT REGARDING THE POTLUCK

We're getting use of the RTM facilities at cost (i.e., direct security and maintenance costs) because we'll be buying as many ingredients as possible within the Market. (Except perhaps for the rarest of spices or an incredibly esoteric ingredient, there's hardly anything that can't be found at the RTM.)

As Katie said a year ago upthead: "having it right at Reading Terminal would be like having the world's best pantry laid out at our feet."

Chris Hennes, way upthread, had asked if there's space for about a dozen people to simultaneously cook. Contrary to the info I had before the kitchen was constructed, it can't accommoate a dozen cooks simultaneous. It's a demonstration kitchen, not a production kitchen. I've seen three or four professional chefs work on one dish each there, but that's pretty much the limit. In addition, we won't have access to the kitchen until after 3 p.m. when the Pennsylvania Dutch Festival ends.

To quote Katie from upthread again: "It occurs to me that we might have to cook in shifts and time this out with military precision, and it being the hell fire of a Philly August, we might want to go for more cold and room temperature dishes that don't require burner and/or oven space".

Sounds like a fine idea to me. I also recommend that the active kitchen space be devoted to use by those traveling-from-afar rather than locals. I, for one, plan to make a dish from RTM ingredients at home the day before that would, at most, just require plating at the potluck. Say, gapacho, which benefits from an overnight in the fridge anyway.

Of course, I may be worrying a bit unnecessarily about how to accommodate a dozen cooks and three dozen diners. To update Prasantrin's count, at the current time I see only 9 firm attendees Saturday evening:

Chris Hennes + 1

Tokaris

Prasantrin +1

Kerry Beal

Katie

Noinacs

Me

If there are others who plan to attend the Saturday "pot luck", please post post-haste.

Bob - can I buy kimchi at the market?

I can bring an induction burner - that will allow me to cook in any little corner where we can set up a table.

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I don't know about the load in information for the RTM. I'll leave that to rlibkind. I have a message to him awaiting a response.

This just in, however. I have made contact with local historian/cookbook author Celeste Morello. She is available to be our tour guide for the Italian Market on Friday afternoon. Cost is $35/person or $350 for a group of 10 or more people with stops along the way for tastes and her impeccable knowledge of the market. Her tours have been featured in many local and national magazines as the best in the city for the Italian Market. You can read more about it HERE. I would be interested in doing this if others feel the same way. But my budget doesn't include travel expenses, so I don't want to presume on behalf of anyone else's wallets. I certainly think a professionally led tour would be really interesting, and I'm certain I'll learn a lot of things I don't know about the Market even though I'm a local. So what say ye? I told Ms. Morello I'd get back to her after the weekend. Let me know if there's interest in this.

I think we'd attend if others were going, but I'm not a big fan of formal tours. I figured I'd stand in Fante's drooling for an hour or two...


Chris Hennes
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Sorry for jumping is so late. Almost missed the thread until it was brought to my attention yesterday.

Would love to join everyone for Friday's dinner at Zahav, if it is not too late.

Unfurtunately have prior commitments for Sat

Might be able to join for brunch (maybe +1). Will confirm a little later.

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Of course, I may be worrying a bit unnecessarily about how to accommodate a dozen cooks and three dozen diners. To update Prasantrin's count, at the current time I see only 9 firm attendees Saturday evening:

Chris Hennes + 1

Tokaris

Prasantrin +1

Kerry Beal

Katie

Noinacs

Me

If there are others who plan to attend the Saturday "pot luck", please post post-haste.

Aw, maybe everyone's afraid of my cooking! You don't have to cook to attend, and I won't feel (too) bad if you won't eat whatever it is I decide to make.


Chris Hennes
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(eta: Yay percyn!!!)

I'm surprised more people from NYC and NJ aren't coming, especially other eG staff. All those volunteers just two hours away and no one wants to make the drive down?

re: the tour--my +1 and I actually prefer tours, because we enjoy the culture/history as much as the food. It's nice to put meaning to the places we visit. Plus it takes care of a "plan" in terms of where to go and when, otherwise we're just a large group wandering around from store to store together (if even together). In the case of the latter, if we're just ordering our own lunches at Paesano's, anyway (don't know if that's the case--is it?), then there's really not much of a point of even meeting up that morning. We could all just do it on our own.

On the other hand, I saw the tours are either 3 or 5 hours. That's an awfully long time for my +1 to be walking, so unless there are prolonged stops that involve sitting down, we'd have a hard time doing the tour.

re: RTM Saturday morning--will we be doing a tour or is it just meeting up to go shopping? I saw online that there are tours available (for a fee), but wasn't sure if that was what the group would be doing. As with the Italian Market, if it's just a bunch of people meeting up at RTM and then doing their own thing, then we might just do our own thing and skip the meeting up part.


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I'm surprised more people from NYC and NJ aren't coming, especially other eG staff. All those volunteers just two hours away and no one wants to make the drive down?

Unfortunately, I can't swing it. I'm afraid of Hennes' cooking.


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Re: RTM tours

I'll be leading tours, for free! (Just remember, you get what you pay for).

Because of the crowds due to Saturday's Pennsylvania Dutch Festival, I'd propose a 9 am tour, and I'll be glad to augment that with a 3:30 pm tour if there's interest.

Since Center Court seating will not be available due to PA Dutch fest, we'd meet in Piano Court, close by Amy's Place, Metropolitan bakery, and Pennsylvania General Store, near Arch Street entrances to the market.

Let me know who's interested at which time.


Bob Libkind aka "rlibkind"

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