What should my deli stock?

[Jinmyo]

This is a great idea, Basildog.

Oh, and:

Pie.

[Basildog]

Pie...of course....but no pasties

Just found out i can,t have the premises that i wanted ..oh well, will keep searching

[ali]

Seriously, what local Cornish foods are there? What are those Saffron cakes? I seem to remember something about a Saffron growing village and Phonecians?

Saffron cake is a kind of yeasty sweet bread chock full of sultanas and peel. It also comes as buns (very convenient, and far superior to a toasted teacake) The story I heard is that the people of, I think Marazion near Penzance, were regular traders with the Phonecians who brought spices, including saffron, and got hooked. I was hooked as a child, so was delighted to find out when I grew up that it was used in Spanish and Indian cooking too (Cornwall is a little out of the way, after all). It's still one of my favorite spices.

Other fabbie Cornish food:

Cauliflower (really)

Lobsters, if you can get them before they go to London

Helford Oysters

Pichards, if you can get them before they go to Spain

Really crusty clotted cream

Barnicotts pasties (there used to be a Barnicotts in Padstow, don't know if it is still there)

Proper Cornish vanilla ice cream

[Adam Balic]

Thank you Ali. I looked into this Cornish food thing and quess what, Cornwall is full of traditional recipes and food suppliers. Sounds like a nice place.

p.s. How did you forget Stargazy pie?

Basildog - sorry to hear that the deal is a no go .

[Basildog]

of course its a nice place you fool...i'm here....

[Jon Tseng]

Really crusty clotted cream

clotted cream chocolate truffles?

[Adam Balic]

of course its a nice place you fool...i'm here....

Well, I wasn't to know that, having never been there. My opinion was based on Wilfrid saying it was creepy (full of 'fish-huggers'?). Last time I listen to that guy, I can tell you.

[ali]

Really crusty clotted cream

clotted cream chocolate truffles?

Mmmm... looks like a project for the weekend.

Recipe for clotted cream if you are in a deprived area:

http://coffeetea.about.com/library/new_rec...s=clotted+cream

[g.johnson]

It's in the shorter two-volume OED above my desk: 'of or pertaining to artisans, involving manual skill'.

Odd. It's not in the OED online.

[Wilfrid]

I have never been able to fid the OED online. Should be easy. Do you have a link, Professor?

[Andy Lynes]

I have never been able to fid the OED online.  Should be easy.  Do you have a link, Professor?

I too would like to be able to fid the OED online, but I just can't work out how.

[g.johnson]

http://dictionary.oed.com/

But you have to pay.

[Wilfrid]

Oh, that has to be tax deductible. Surely, surely.

[Shiva]

Oh, that has to be tax deductible.  Surely, surely.

Only if you've paid your yearly OED License. In triplicate. The OED detector van will be around shortly.

[Kikujiro]

It's in the shorter two-volume OED above my desk: 'of or pertaining to artisans, involving manual skill'.

Odd. It's not in the OED online.

Nor it is. Or rather, it occurs once in the OED online, glossing 'mechanical':

3. Belonging to or characteristic of people engaged in manual work, esp. regarded as a class, artisanal; vulgar, coarse. Now rare.

So it's a good enough word to help define another word, but it doesn't itself exist. You can't trust anything these days, not even the OED.

[g.johnson]

This gets stranger and stranger. The OED online to which I have access (http://dictionary.oed.com/) gives for mechanical:

2.a. Of persons: Engaged in manual labour; belonging to the artisan class. Now rare. Hence, characteristic of this class, mean, vulgar (obs.).

[Chloe]

It's in the New Oxford Dictionary of English

artisan

noun a worker in a skilled trade, especially one that involves making things by hand.

DERIVATIVES

artisanal adjective.

ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, from Italian artigiano, based on Latin artitus, past participle of artire ‘instruct in the arts’, from ars, art- ‘art’.

(which I have on my computer, in case anybody thinks I've just typed that out)

Chloë

[Vanessa]

It's in the New Oxford Dictionary of English

artisan

noun a worker in a skilled trade, especially one that involves making things by hand.

DERIVATIVES

artisanal adjective.

ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, from Italian artigiano, based on Latin artitus, past participle of artire ‘instruct in the arts’, from ars, art- ‘art’.

(which I have on my computer, in case anybody thinks I've just typed that out)

Chloë

I wondered how long it would be before you added your tuppenny worth!

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[Basildog]

Maybe i should stock the OED?

[Chloe]

   

I wondered how long it would be before you added your tuppenny worth!

v

[Kikujiro]

This gets stranger and stranger. The OED online to which I have access (http://dictionary.oed.com/) gives for mechanical:

2.a. Of persons: Engaged in manual labour; belonging to the artisan class. Now rare. Hence, characteristic of this class, mean, vulgar (obs.).

I think I've made sense of this. There are (at least) two entries for 'mechanical'. The one I quoted I got to by doing an advanced search for 'artisanal'. It's labelled 'draft entry Dec. 2001'. The one you quote comes up when doing a straight search on 'mechanical' and is from the 1989 2nd ed. You can switch between the two by clicking the 'earlier' / 'later' button at the top right.

[Charlene Leonard]

have you got nothing better to do on a Friday afternoon, young man??

[g.johnson]

'Artisanal' will probably be in the new edition, then, since it's already made it to the abridged dictionaries which are published more frequently.

[Kikujiro]

have you got nothing better to do on a Friday afternoon, young man??

Can I take the fifth on that?

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[Basildog]

Up date on the deli...property here has gone mental , so i have sacrificed my table of 2 in the window to put in a permanant chiller.In the short term this will cost me money, but hopefully the trade will build