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1 hour ago, btbyrd said:
I will follow the development of the oven and app with much interest, but I just pulled the trigger on the non-Joule version which I'd been planning on buying anyway. With the sale price, I couldn't see paying the 43% premium right now. Maybe in a year or two I'll upgrade.
I forgot to mention-congrats on your purchase! I’ve only used mine thus far in manual (non Joule) mode, and I’m convinced it is a stellar countertop oven. So much nicer that the Cuisinart that it replaced..
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48 minutes ago, btbyrd said:
Anyway, I see the appeal of using a wireless probe in the Joule Oven, but again am not super sold on how beneficial having a probe that measures the ambient temperature would be…
I agree completely. I don’t see the draw of the Joule oven/Combustion thermometer to be what it can do now, but the possibilities that might be in the future. There are some really creative and brilliant people behind the Joule and Combustion.
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42 minutes ago, weinoo said:
Gets rid of the competition, doesn't it?
42 minutes ago, weinoo said:Gets rid of the competition, doesn't it?
Please, explain to us how the manufacturer of a wireless temperature probe is in direct competition with… the manufacturer of a pellet grill.
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14 hours ago, weinoo said:
Okay, so you and who else?
I don’t recall where I said that I had, or would be, buying both the Joule oven and the Combustion thermometer. I have the oven, but the Combustion thermometer won’t ship for another 2+ months at best so I don’t expect a lot of folks to have purchased both today. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Chris Young perhaps has both today. I’m just saying that I believe there is a market for using a wireless probe in a PID controlled oven. Why else would Traeger, arguably if not factually, the largest seller of PID controlled ovens in the world buy the MEATER company when they already ship their grills with wired temp probes?
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1 hour ago, btbyrd said:
I don't really see the need for a probe that monitors ambient temperatures in tightly thermostatically regulated environments like a PID controlled oven, water bath, or induction burner. And while the Combustion Inc thing seems cool with its many sensors and predictive timer/app, it's also $200 and I'm passing on that. (It's also still kinda vaporware, but global supply chains are screwed and I'm not blaming Chris Young for that.) I don't know that anyone is going to shell out $700 so their $350 toaster oven can have a probe and an app. Or maybe they would. I can't say. Speaking for myself, I guess it'd be cool to have, but as with the $150 premium on the Joule Oven over the non-Joule version of the same oven, I don't know that the unique value proposition of that setup is especially high.
You don’t think that there are already people today buying the wireless MEATER probe for use in a PID controlled pellet grill that comes standard with wired temp probes? And I assure you there are people in this thread who have, or will be, buying the Joule oven and Combustion probe. Just because you are not their market doesn’t mean there is no market for this technology.
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The Control Freak probe is, for lack of a better term, a dumb technology probe. Who would prefer a wire probe for use inside their home oven? The wireless probs from MEATER and soon from Combustion are next level in how they monitor ambient and food temps. Combustion has already said they are working with oven appliance manufacturers to pair their thermometer technology, so time will tell what that looks like.
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Just now, TdeV said:
No steam, right?
Correct.
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1 hour ago, Dave the Cook said:
They've added an air-fryer function and two phone apps to the SmartOven Air. If I'm reading correctly, one (the Joule Oven App) can control oven functions, though it doesn't appear to be required to operate the oven. The other app is called Autopilot, and appears to include step-by-step instructions coordinated with oven control. There's also video on one of the apps. At this point, I get confused about what's where. It appears that the apps are free.
There is only one app, but some of the recipes in the app require multiple stages (times, temps, etc.) and those are controlled with Autopilot. The balance of the recipes are straightforward time, temp, duration. I suspect there will be a lot of additional technology incorporated with the oven and app. As one example, I would expect that Chris Young’s forthcoming Combustion, Inc. wireless thermometer will be integrated with the oven. Just my opinion given the prior relationships involved here-I have no inside info on this.
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13 hours ago, palo said:
That ground beef packaging looks unique - I've never seen/heard of that - I wonder if after opening then resealing if they have a tendency to re-freeze into a clump
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I have some of this in my freezer now, and opening/resealing does not change the product when the bag goes back into the freezer. Now I will add that I don’t thaw the entire bag and re-freeze what I don’t use-I take out what I need and immediately put the rest back in the freezer.
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I’d be interested to know why Dr. Taber blames Wall Street for the wheat panic. Commodities are traded, and thus pricing is established, on the Chicago Board of Trade, not Wall Street.
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3 hours ago, dtremit said:
Email from Misfits last night — looks like they are raising shipping from $4.50 to $7.99 for existing members (with the suggestion that new subscriber shipping is higher). They also mention adding more grocery staples to the offering, and some kind of loyalty program that will include shipping discounts.
Interesting. I’ve been paying $6.99 for shipping since I joined them back in January. I did not receive an email about price increasing/loyalty program.
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6 minutes ago, btbyrd said:
No, there’s just a wifi (or Bluetooth, I can’t remember) version of the SOAFP called the Joule Oven.
It’s both WiFi and Bluetooth capable, as well as voice activated with either Google Assistant or Alexa. Not compatible with Siri.
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30 minutes ago, btbyrd said:
The Joule Oven is $499 (or $549 for their black stainless version, which looks cool but would probably be less easy to clean in the long run). This is a $100 premium over the normal price of the SOAFP, which happens to be $50 off right now at $349. I wonder if having a smartphone controllable version of the SOAFP is worth a $150 premium. If it's not programmable, I'm sort of dubious. If it is worth the premium, I hope they make some more in-depth marketing videos that explain what it's capable of.
I bought the SS Joule Oven (to replace this nearly-new Cuisinart oven) and it arrived yesterday. I haven’t cooked in it yet, but I have tried all the basic functions to become familiar with it. I have the app installed and I like that you get notifications, similar to a controller on a pellet grill. I’m a ChefSteps member and I got a 6 month membership extension, so that amounted to a $30 discount.
I don’t think I would use the pre-programmed recipes in the Joule app now, but I wanted this model as I expect there will be a lot of features added in the future, including (hopefully) programming one’s own recipes. ChefSteps has more info on the oven, including videos, on their site, but I can’t tell you if you need to be a CS member to see it. ChefSteps
In case anyone is wondering, I’m replacing the Cuisinart because of it’s lacking capacity. If they would have made the width 1/2” wider, it would be able to use 1/4 sheet pans. It’s otherwise a fine oven. I experienced a similar issue with a Cuisinart immersion blender. It was an extremely well designed, from a feature perspective, blender but it’s head was about 1/8” in diameter too big to fit inside a wide-mouth mason jar.
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On 3/10/2022 at 7:14 PM, weinoo said:
I hear the Chowhound cookbook is gonna be a hot item...
Not familiar with their upcoming cookbook, but is it still going to happen? Chowhound is shutting down next Monday.
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Where is @ChefChrisYoungon launch day?
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It seems like needing to email them now to claim a a promised referral reward for a discount on a. product that won’t ship for, at best, 6 months might be problematic? I think I’m out on this one.
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Nope. I got the referral email, but no codes for the people that accepted my referral.
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20 hours ago, yimyammer said:
I think it also predicts when the food will be ready based on temps per protein type.
It will be interesting to see if the multiple sensors make this a useful feature. The MEATER also has predictive done times, and it is worthless. You could throw darts at random times posted on a wall and have just as much a chance that it is accurate.
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On 12/26/2021 at 8:42 PM, BeeZee said:
I have a dishwasher and rarely use it, I find hand washing dishes meditative and the noise as it runs for an hour or two just annoys me. As a two person household, we wouldn’t have enough dishes to justify running it most days, I can’t stand the idea of leaving dirty dishes for multiple days…so it generally gets used when we have guests for dinner. Which is to say, rarely these days.
Same here, on all the points you mention.
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Well, it’s not really a ‘gadget’ but I would not have even known about the Control Freak if not for eG. And now I own one.
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17 hours ago, Anna N said:
I am glad you like the book.
Without waiting for a response though, I purchased the Kindle edition of the Chang book. I have been thinking about posting a review on here but I couldn’t quite find the words. Let us just say there were no sane adults in the room when this made it through the publishing process.
This is not about misplaced commas or split infinitives. it’s about clear thinking. It’s about logical organization. It’s about fonts in so many sizes and so many colours that you feel as if you are reading in a kindergarten classroom. It’s about photographs that make me look good as a photographer.
According to Chang, a nonstick wok is a necessary piece of kitchen equipment; three eggs and half a cup of liquid will make a silky custard (for chawanmushi) when cooked in the microwave. Even the photograph of this shows something approaching an over-cooked omelet!
There is so much more that is wrong with this book in my opinion. YMMV.
I’m a little over a third of the way through the Kindle version and I couldn’t agree more with your assessment. I had read, and deleted, the Kindle sample primarily because of the organizational and formatting issues you mention. I bought it anyway because I hoped the content would overcome that, but it just hasn’t clicked with me.
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Joule Oven Air Fryer Pro
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OK, I’ll play what might be possible even though I’m not the creative working with these companies. Let’s say I have a frozen sirloin and I’m wanting a reverse sear steak tonight. My options are to a) go to a steak house or b) wing it with what I have at home. Going with the plan b option, I put the frozen steak in a Joule sous vide bath and the Combustion thermometer tells me when I have reached my target, pre-sear temp. Meanwhile, the technology has started my Breville Joule oven to the desired temp to sear the steak.
Later, I get a notification that the steak is done in the sous vide, transfer to the Joule oven where I later receive a notice to flip the steak. Then, when the steak has reached the desired pre-rest temp as determine by they Combustion probe, I get a notification to pull the steak and let it rest. All of this may sound like unnecessary BS for those who like to manually steer every function of cooking a meal, but for the folks that at best are ordering meals delivered by grubhub, this could change everything.