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Richard Blais "Try This at Home" just hit my kindle. Looks really cool, but then again, I like him alot. Doesn't look overly modernist, just creative.
Mike
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I have the plumbed Gaggenau and I love it. It is a major luxury,not a "must have". It does certain things amazingly well from steaming and reheating to baking. I was lucky enough to build a dream kitchen and chose to go with a steam oven instead of an electric wall. My range has one full gas oven and a smaller one.
However, if you were to ask me to choose between my immersion circulator and my steam oven, I'd have to go with the immersion circulator.
Mike
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You can add some baking soda to the cooking water as well to affect the PH
MSK
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I did the technique for the eggplant parm in a microwave. But I only did the eggplant pieces. This was a revelation for me, it is fast and easy and made delicious and tender eggplant with concentrated flavor. This will be my go to method for making eggplant since it is extremely low in fat, and the eggplant is delightfully tender.
Mike
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I would start with the Jus Gras as a a base and see what the texture is when foamed, there is plenty you can do to amake it foam better if its not the texture you desire . Eliminating the cream and eggs will give you better flavor release (though a bacon and egg foam sounds pretty delicious to me as well---just not sure if you were going for that). I was approaching this from a cream-like standpoint since that what was originally tried.
A foamed agar gel of bacon stock might work, but I have heard agar has problems with stock, but I have no experience with that,
MSK
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How about making a Bacon "Constructed Cream" Using Pork/Bacon stock instead of the Chicken stock and rendered bacon fat instead of the duck fat in the attached link
Then run it through an isi.
http://modernistcuisine.com/recipes/simplified-jus-gras/
msk
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I have an original Polyscience, a SVS, and a Sidekic with a Nomiku on order.
They all are solid and suited for different circumstances. I do not know anything about the underground unit.
I think the Sidekic is excellent for the Price, but has a bit of an unwieldy shape and a heater on the weaker side. There are plenty of workarounds though if budget is the main issue.
The SVS is an excellent product, though its big because it has the integrated bath, and can be awkward to empty. I use it alot but do prefer a pump.
Polyscience makes excellent products, and I'm sure the creative is great.
I'm not sure what in what capacity you are going to use this, but if you can afford it I'd go with one with a pump to get some flexibility on size of containter.
When, I'm making 72 hr short ribs or brisket,, I want to do a large amount at a time. Especially since a vac seal and immediate ice chill creates a product that can last in the fridge/freezer without much degradation.
Mike
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I also have a WFO though not a Forno Bravo. I also have a gas grill, and a Big Green Egg. Let me give you my opinion.
1)Pizza in the WFO is a different level than anything else I have made, and I have been making pizza for decades. The difference between 850+F and 600F is meaningful.
2) While heating the oven takes time (I can be making Pizza in 90 mins) it is not a very active process, and I throw tons of veggies in to roast during this time to have ample high quality toppings.
3) Cleanup is a snap, in fact I don't cleanup I just close up the oven and clean out the as before next use which takes all of 30 seconds with the right tools.
I thought this would be alot tougher, and I was worried about all of the above taking away from my enjoyment of it. My family and friends enjoy it so much I am so glad we chose to go ahead with the project.
MSK
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My memory is that it was an improvment over a dry oven, but how much over an oven with "Simulated steam" like you tried is uncertain.
My gaggenau has a "steam burst" button so thats what I used. The wolf might be worried youd lose all the steam if you pre heated and all the steam comes in the beginning.
Mike
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RE: Baking Bread
I have on several occasions with good success. However, I have never done a side-by-side with my gas viking range oven.
Mike
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I also have the plumbed Gaggenau and use it frequently. Aside from reheating leftovers and steaming, it also does an emazing job reinvigorating bread. I have done custards, and eggs, and hosts of other stuff.
I like it alot, but not sure it could be my only oven.
Mike
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The Gelatin Suffices for protein. WD uses Geltain in combo with Meat Glue on many different dishes from barley to the peanut butter noodles. The other recipe would likely be easier but you have other options if its not to your liking (and meat-related ingredients aren't an issue)
Mike
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Gellan would work and be vegetarian.
Otherwise you could go the WD-50 Peanut Butter noodle route, and add Gelatin and Transglutaminase.
Mike
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Rot, I agree with your points. However, I do think there is some middle ground where overroasting adds to perception of strength.
Mike
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It would also be interesting to test, a combination of vacuum-infusion with cavitation (assuming the flavor base you are trying to extract is porous enough)
An exmaple.
Lets say you wanted to infuse alcohol with apple (totally arbitrary example but knowing apple is relatively porous-which helps)
1) Sliced apple into vacuum bag with alcohol
2) Seal and vacuum (liquid now replaces air inside spple tiny pores)
3) Cavitate
Ive often wondered if this would improve isi cavitation as well.
Mike
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It was just the Blond (or veranda they call it also-the manager said they both were the same).
Its been awhile since I roasted my own beans at home, which I greatly preferred. I used to roast all sorts of beans and bought from Sweet Marias. I do prefer medium roasts (i really like the caramel flavors).
Im really just comparing it to mass market coffee I get on way to work. It has more flavor to me than DD for sure. Id prefer if it was slightly stronger (but not burnt). I also go to an excellent Starbucks where coffee is fresh and well done (many are not).
Mike
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Tastes vary.
I actually really like it. Normal roasts from Sbux taste overroasted and burnt to me. This one has caramel undertones I like alot. It reminds me most of the coffee I made when I was roasting my own beans.
Mike
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I have a VP112 and love it. I bought it for the form factor as moving aroung the other ones is basically impossible. No regrets here.
Mike
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When I see cavitation, I also think Nitrous-isi flavor extraction. Are these waves to "gentle" for this purpose?
Mike
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Chris,
I'd be interested in your process. Do you do it in a jar, a vacuum bag?
Mike
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I use my SV rig and my vacuum sealer alot too. I just made meatloaf SV with 50% brisket and 50% chuck. Rolled into a tube, 145F for 4 hours. Really, outstanding.
I have also really gotten into cook/chill since SV reheated is such high quality.
Mike
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That is an interesting theory about fries but I am not sure it is entirely correct. When I do potatoes in deep oil, they don't brown on the first time in even if the oil has been used before. Fries are fried at a lower temperature to cook them through, then on the second time, the heat is raised to brown them on the outside while the inside stays creamy. Every time you use oil for frying, the smoke point drops somewhat. Once it starts smoking at cooking temperature, it is time to change the oil.
When one is sautéing, as Alcuin states, it helps to release what is cooking and little oil is used so that when done, the oil is discarded and not used again so smoke isn't an issue. Some oil may be retained in the pan while it's deglazed for making a sauce though.
The thing about smoking oil is that it has just started to break down and if you keep it, it is open for oxidation which is when the oil is no longer safe or good to use anymore.
There is alot more behind using oil than just releasing food, though that may have been the original goal. MC goes into detail about different such things, but I don't have mine handy to quote. At a minimum, oil is significantly fore efficient at delivering heat to the food, and broken down oil does accelerate brownin as the by products of the breakdown of oil allow penetration of the vapor barrier that forms when cooking. That idea was from Russ Parsons "How to Read a French Fry." Not me.
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Though I believe its more about getting the pan hot enough to cook, before the cold ingredients are put in (and lower the pan temp as stated above.) I believe the oil breakdown also contributtes to maaillard reactions. Its why clean oil doesn brown french fries well on the first batch, if I recall correctly.
Mike
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Anyone know offhand how long a cook-chill piece of SV meat will last in the fridge?
Mike
Combi Ovens
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Well, to be honest, I'm not sure there isnt anything it doesnt do better than a normal oven. For me, I choose to do certain things other ways (like sous vide + sear on infrared grill) versus using the combi. The cavity is also small, I'm not sure you could do a 25 lb turkey in there.
1 - Reheating. It reheats leftovers and makes them taste fresh, even leftover chinese food. This may sound superficial, but it makes the difference as to whether leftovers get eaten in my house or not. (thich can be a moneysaver)
2. - Roasting, having control over the moisture during roasting is pretty amazing Surprising enough watching the color change before your eyes in a "Moist" environment
3- cooking custards, and baking. It really does wonders for crusts
4. Steaming (Duh!) I steam everything I can now, including buns for burgers (The trader joes slider buns steamed areamazing)
5. Its easy, throw a piece of fish, and some veggies in there, season, and in 10 minutes you have a meal.