One more thing...I know a fair amount about wine (cellar over 800 bottles), yet when I'm in Europe I like to try obscure, less expensive wines. (Unless I find a bargain, like 83 margaux for 130e two years ago) At Regalade, they have an interesting list, but I hadn't heard of many of the producers. So I asked for a cote du rhone, and they recommended a 2002. I agreed, though I should have known better. 2002 is a total washout year for the rhone - they had torrential floods in September, and these wines, by and large, should be avoided. Sure enough, the wine was thin and weak - like a beaujolais. I made a comment, and they implied that the wine was "proper" but if I wished I could exchange it. As I didn't really know any of the other wines, I decided to just drink it and it was drinkable, no more, no less. Coachboy