Chef/Writer Spencer
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Thus, title comes down to schooling. Go to school, get the education, get the title. In this sense the culinary arts are lagging behind other professions.
Gun in mouth...trigger in hand...go ahead, you're almost there...it'll be much better in the next life.
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We're all getting stuck up in the semantics swamp. I don't this is very productive. Just condition yourself to accept my posts as fact and move on. Jeeesssshh....
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3-egg omelete w/ Brie, Asparagus tips and sun-dried tomatoes. Topped with some Creme Fraiche.
gut bomb.
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Flat leaf...good for garnishes..window pane potatoes a la Martha Stewart, laying in between two sheets of pasta and running through the machine. We all know that curly parsley is the Shoney's garnish of choice.
As far as getting the chloropyll, a la French cooking, curly works just as well, if not better than flat leaf.
Chopping for a colorful finish on a plate...if you're using flat leaf I bet you and you're accountant hate each other.
Flavor, NO DIFFERENCE...
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Surely you're not saying that a diploma from a culinary school entitles one to be called a chef? The only people who call a cooking school grad "chef" on the day he graduates are his friends and relatives. If he's got a PhD in culinary arts however, he's entitled to be called "doctor."
Oh but Bux, my joyously combative friend, that IS what he's saying. And he's defending his position like he stuck in a foxhole. What he doesn't realize is that his own gun is going to be his undoing. Let's allow him to commit verbal suicide. It's an interesting look into the mind of denial.
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You're welcome...but let's digress from this baiting shit...
If you graduate from culinary school there's no official recognition in the industry that would automatically deem you a chef. They don't dust Andre Soltner off to award honorary chef titles to graduates. No one says, Congratulations, now you're a chef. Please prove me wrong.
Following your logic--using my twisted mind to decipher--theoretically, you could graduate from culinary school and sport the title Grand Pubah of the Cayman Islands. You could call the graduates anything, but since they're in the culinary profession you thinks it's only appropriate to call them chefs. Well, you know what I call a culinary school graduate who comes in for a job--the grill guy. Then if he proves he has leadership ability I put him into a sous-chef training program. Then, upon finishing his training, proving to me, the EXECUTIVE CHEF, that he can wage my wars, run my kitchen, put his schooling to practical use in a real life setting while gaining the respect of the staff he will eventually command I give him a phat raise, and buy him some cotton chef coats with the title Sous Chef on them. That's how you get the title in a nut shell. You've got to put practical on the job experience and the schooling together. But really, I don't give a shit if you've even set foot in a culinary school. I'll call you chef if I think it's appropriate.
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No dude, I realize where I fit into the food chain. On the list of important professions I'd say chef ranks about 10006. No, I'm not going there with you because that was an ignorant statement.
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I didn't see that Rothman post...He can't believe just cause you graduate from culinary school you're a chef. Tell me he's trying to be funny. Jesus, what a dumb statement.
Dead serious, buddy. You know it is possible to have bad chefs. I never said that going to culinary school made anyone a good chef. Bottom line is that it's a professional school just like the other ones mentioned; go to a professional school, graduate, earn the right to be known as a professional in said field of study. Doesn't necessarily mean the person is good at what he/she does, just means they have the right to be known by the title.
-Eric
* pogophiles point about needing to pass the bar exam to become a lawyer is a valid criticism of my argument, however there are numerous other professional school which don't require further examinations/courses of study after graduation.
I'm not diginifying this with a response.
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Wagyu short ribs---the best ever, sear em eat em md. rare...
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I won't accept that. I'm right.
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I didn't see that Rothman post...He can't believe just cause you graduate from culinary school you're a chef. Tell me he's trying to be funny. Jesus, what a dumb statement.
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After I was the sous chef for Jose Gutierrez, French Master Chef, getting there from pissant commis status, and seeing how contempuous the chef was for culinary school externs I realized that it wasn't necessary to go to school to call yourself a chef. I'm not by any stretch downplaying culinary school--I just think some people don't need it. I've never had a formal education, neither has Thomas Keller...you don't want to say he's not a chef do you? That's blasphemous.
Master Chef?????????????????
I need some advil.
I told ya, adjust ritalin dosage...that ought to do the trick. Maybe you'll get creative if you approximate an OD.
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Ok: is that you or Lenny Henry 'being' you in the mini-me/avatar?
Glamour is as glamour does.
My Darth Vader avatar was out of focus. I chose the next best thing.
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Horseshit, I'm the poster boy for productive functioning abusers....
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I just read that Keller has seen a few specialists about having Spencer removed -- or at least lanced.
God, what a collossal waste of time that would be...I know where he works....
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Nah...
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After I was the sous chef for Jose Gutierrez, French Master Chef, getting there from pissant commis status, and seeing how contempuous the chef was for culinary school externs I realized that it wasn't necessary to go to school to call yourself a chef. I'm not by any stretch downplaying culinary school--I just think some people don't need it. I've never had a formal education, neither has Thomas Keller...you don't want to say he's not a chef do you? That's blasphemous.
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There's lemon in my furniture polish, I really don't need it on my plate.
What?
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So, even though I work with food 10-12 hours a day, plate up every service (and scrub down), hire/fire/schedule/supervise/train staff, order product, count inventory, write 100% of my menu, and previously held down line cook and sous chef positions... do I still have to change my business cards to read, Most Surely Not a Pastry Chef?
Just askin'.
Agree wholeheartedly...you guys/gals are just a little more sensitive.....
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"It has been reported that you haven't seemed a hunded percent lately. You seem tired and listless--and that "Oral History of the Mellotron Years" book you bought for us last year--well--it hasn't been performing as well as hoped. Some (I cannot, of course give their names) have even suggested that this project was the fruit of an addled mind. Be so kind as to piss in this cup, old boy--will you? We'll all feel better about things. "
At the risk of sounding like his bestest (sic) sycophantic fan....
I laughed my self into a six pack stomach..."Oral History of The Mellotron Years"
Only a mind seriously deprived of oxygen for over thirty minutes somewhere in the adolescent years could come up with something that juicy. I say heroin was a blessing for good old Tony B. -
What people do in their own time is their own business be it taking drugs or fucking sheep. What is not their own business is if they come into work with the sheep still on their back the next day
S
Personal experience eh Simon?
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The corporation I work for makes everyone who has to visit the clinic for work related injuries take a piss test. It's a liability issue, one I can deal with, though it makes for some rather slow knife work on my part . If I ran a company I'd want to know if the poissonier seared his face because he was high on weed so I could deflect liability, that's just 1+1=2. But mandatory and random drug testing of cooks, chefs etc. is bullshit, and, as stated here many a time, not cost effective. If my sous chef comes in with dialated pupils, fucks temperatures up, let's the staff get away with culinary atrocities, etc. then we're having a sit down in the office. You need to begin the relationship with trust, but if you see it slowly withering away it's time to start expulsion proceedings with a verbal warning--proceeded by an upside down pyramid of documented disciplinary actions. Trust? Yes, but on a short leash.
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Sounds like you're hoping the lighthouse hasn't been swept away too Kim. Is your sailor boy out at sea?
Yeah, this is a biased generalization that has little basis in reality, but I can see where it comes from. My marriage broke up due to my passion for the industry, the hours, my constant work talk at home while the babies cried off in the background...The drugs had little effect. If you want Kim, go ahead and start a thread on parental absenteism due to work addiction.
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I think, Tony and I agree.
Spence,
It's ok to disagree with bourdain. We're all human here.
Well, while I do agree with Mr. Bourdain on a lot of things because he did what I'm doing I have no starstruck predisposition to be a Bourdainian sycophant. I'm sure he gets enough of that at book signings and world tours. And, if you read the rest of my post I totally discounted his pot stance due to his celebrity status. If he zings out with some bullshit you can bet I'll jump off the top rope.
"Chef" -- Who is? Who ain't?
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Next time I go to Mickey D's I'm going to insist that the "chef" douce my fucking Big Mac with special sauce...then I'm going home to suffocate myself with it, leaving a note that reads "I did it for the confit de canard."
I think calling a kitchen manager a chef is shitty...yes, I'm highly emotional, psychotically so perhaps, but this reeks of politcal correctness. Better not offend Mr. Burgerhead manager dude by calling him a kitchen manager. Perhaps I'm the Bill Mahr of the culinary world, sadly unafraid to assert stanky feet into tight asses but we need to move away from the semantic discussion if, like we all agree, there is no clear cut rite of passage that makes one a chef. Perhaps I will be fired from my own show...though if I were a betting man I'd risk a prediction that my opinion is important in the industry. But this discussion cuts right to the heart of what I'm all about.
Bux will easily shoot me down with his ability to draw straight lines between two distinctly ambiguous ideologies but I simply won't die a Big Mac death without getting my point across. Chef is an earned title, obtainable in a variety of ways but earned none the less. And I assert for all of the guys who are actually commanding the great worried brigades of the recession based purple sage, who are burning limbs, working the hours, who are creating magical ephinanies for the minority foodie that can't be duplicated at the acned fast food/corporate junkets that a chef is a person to be respected for his contributions to the future and his utter regard for the traditions that brought him forth into his chosen occupation. A kitchen manager a chef? Hogwash.