Hi, thanks for the replies. I will probably give this a go next week when I've sorted out what additions to make to my mix. However, I'm now slightly confused. I went to check what was in the mix so that I could better understand what to add etc. I seems the one I have contains: salt, sugar, pepper, rosemary and both E250 and E251. Lofty Notions, I think that I'm beginning to see why you don't like pre made mixes. Does this mean I'm using a #2 mix that's designed for raw eating? I must confess to having tried a tiny slice before I rolled the last one I made and it was tasty. If this is a #2 mix have, will I need to get one that only has Nitrite for my salt beef? Or should I be really brave and start blending my own?