Wow, I am blown away at how helpful everyone is. I honestly was expecting a lot of cynicism, as I would be cynical of myself-was I not an opportunist:) This has evolved into exactly what I was looking for, The Legends Cocktail sounds like a show stopper, and I am excited to try many of the others. It seems there are quite a few gin fans here which makes me happy. I have Dale Degroff's book, maybe I need to buy the second one.