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  1. Does anyone have any knowledge about the Plantation Rum 'series'?  I've been collecting rums for awhile now, including Trinidad 1991, Trinidad 1993, and Jamaica 8 Yr Old.  The '93 looks identical to the bottle on www.plantationrum.com, but the Jamaica and the '91 Trinidad are a bit different.  Those two bottles were sealed with wax, and the labels are a bit different.  I've also heard of a Plantation Venezuela, but that's not shown on the website at all.  What's the deal?  Is this just a matter of discontinued/repackaged products?  Thanks,

    Mark

    I've been told by the importers of Plantation Rums to the UK that all of the Plantation Venezuelan rum has been sold, and there isn't any more stock. They're also releasing a Panama rum to there family very soon.

  2. I'm a little confused. Are you looking for a clear rum? Are you looking for a rum with a contemporary premium image or a really good rum to serve in your bar?

    If you're looking for something which isn't presently being imported to the UK, are you looking to begin importing this rum?

    I agree that the frosted Clement bottle looks more like a vodka bottle than a rum bottle, but if you like that style of rum, which is about 180 degrees from Bambu, you should try Neisson, also from Martinique. Neisson is not distributed in the UK.

    The elements packaging looks interesting, I look forward to tasting the rum.

    I've got a bottle of the Elements 8 platinum & gold for you to taste but sending alcohol to the states from over here in Europe in a nightmare. Any suggestions?

  3. I'll have to consult my email, but there is a man in Europe who was raised in Trinidad and has done quite a bit with chocolate and rum.

    I love to have some old rum with a bit of chocolate and coffee after dinner. I'm not hung up on the name of the chocolate, or the rum, because I like a variety of different flavors. And I like to experiment instead of being burdened with recipes.

    The previous owner of my boat ate his first pancakes with blue cheese and yogurt on them, don't knock it until you've tried it.

    The man in question is Duane Dove. He has over 200 rums in his restaurant in Stockholm, Sweden and he also has a cocoa plantation in his native Trinidad. His web page is http://www.rumchocolate.com/

  4. I'm keen to find a rum that has a contemporary premium image - for a cocktail bar.  The only one I can find at the moment is Clement rum from Martinique which has exactly the right sort of contemporary premium style I'm looking for (although the bottle reminds me a bit too much of Grey Goose), it tastes good but it is now becoming a bit common in other bars in my area.

    Does anyone have any suggestions?  I know this is quite a subjective thing but any suggestions at all are really welcome even if they don't have good distribution.

    Thanks

    Try Elements 8 rum. They have a 4 year old white rum and a 6 year old gold rum. Both are distilled and blended in St Lucia. And the bottle definately has a contemporary image.

    http://www.e8rum.com/

  5. Tanduay Rum from the Philliphines is the 2nd most consumed rum in the world selling 14.5 million cases last year. Most of the rum (98%) is drunk locally. India is another rum market that is growing every year with Old Monk, Mcdowell's No.1 Celebration, Contessa and Old Cask rums in the top 100 selling brands in the world.

  6. MB,

    I may be wrong, but I assume that Cachaca is technically unaged rum.  It is distilled from sugar cane.

    Ed will have the definitive answer.

    Tim

    Some Cacachas are unaged but there are quite a few that get to spend some time in Brazillian oak barrels. These are normally pot-stilled "Handmade" Cachacas as opposed to the industrial type. Yes technically they can be called rum because they are distilled from sugar cane juice but so are some vodkas and gins. But we don't dare call those products rum! :biggrin:

  7. Bad rums = mojito, rum punch, etc

    Good rums = neat, on the rocks, dash of water etc etc

    Bacardi = Coke

    If you use a better quality rum in a Mojito or Rum Punch, you will have a far better tasting cocktail. And what is the definition of a bad rum ?

  8. If i'm in a party mood it's got to be Rum,Old Jamaica ginger beer, angostura bitters & a squeeze of fresh lime. If the mood is more serious or the company more reserved then it has to be a rum old fashioned. HMMMM. But the Mojito is still a good long drink. Especially if you drink it to the original recipe. Ice cubes as opposed to crushed ice. Limes & mint slighty muddled instead being of pummled to death. White sugar and lots of soda water with a dash of bitters. Alternatively add some fresh fruit or puree to the drink to give it a fruity twist. (Passion fruit is my favourite)

  9. Can anyone give me a definitive recipe for a Petit Punch? if so, what is it?

    Cheers!

    George

    Squeeze two lime wedges into a small rocks glass

    Add 2 bar spoons of sugar syrup. (If you can find La Mauny or Clemente cane syrup its even better.)

    1 measure of white rhum agricole

    stir until sugar dissolves, and sip. (HMMMM)

    Traditionally ice is not used for the "TI PUNCH" but as most classic cocktails evolve through time the recipe changes.

  10. 1919 is definitely the best of the Angostura range. I agree with Ed that the 1824 tastes somewhat artificial. I shall be drinking plenty of 1919 with ginger beer, a squeeze of lime and Angostura bitters during Trinidads brief experience in the World Cup. Come of Soca Warriors...

  11. Can you give us any names? Are they a mixture of styles and premium?

    2 new premium white rums that have been launched here in Europe are BAQUBA, a blend of Caribean rums aged for up to 5 years then charcoal filtered. Its the only rum in the world bottled in an ALUMINUM bottle. The 2nd rum is Elements 8, a four year old charcoal filtered rum from St. Lucia. The packaging is great and the rums not bad too. Both rums are to be marketed as super premium, similar to 10 Cane. Don't know when they will reach the states but as soon as they tell me I will post it to let you all know.

  12. The rum from Mauritius is called Green Island,bacchant036.They also make a spiced rum. Worst rum i've tasted is STROH from Austria. Taste like a little bit petrol and nothing like rum. I have no idea how they market themselves as a rum ?

  13. The Sikkim rums are very popular in India. Teesta XXX, Black Cat, Striking Lion and XXX prize rum are the popular ones.These rums are column-distilled from fermented cane juice. I think the locals call it "Jaggery" :biggrin:

  14. If you fancy something completely different why not try COTTONS,London's No.1 Caribbean restaurant, for Sunday brunch. They do an excellent buffet at £7.50 per head. Food includes Jerked Chicken, Caribbean style salmon, Curried Chicken, Salt Fish Fritters and many more Caribean style tasties. With their clientel normally paying £25 per head for a meal there, their Sunday lunch is definately a bargain...

    Cottons 55 Chalk Farm road, Camden Town, NW1 :smile:

  15. Ha Ha Ha ha obviously these guys couldn't get hold of any decent rums for their tasting ...and the rums that they did finally taste were obviously too complexed for their taste buds ? Cruzan pineapple rum, (sorry pineapple liqueur) 85 and Mount gay Eclipse 83 ??? No Ron Zacapa, No Guyanese Demarera rums and No Barbancourt ??? Some Raspberry rum given the same rating as Appleton VX ??? and tasting flavoured/spiced rums against Aged rums is like tasting Baileys irish cream against Single malt Whisky or Grand Marnier against Hennessey XO. HA HA HA :biggrin: AND STROH 80 rum from Austria ????? give me a break....or a Bunderberg Black :wink:

  16. Oh Ed. I take it take you are indeed a brave soul to try bundy.. :biggrin: If you do want to mix it I suggest firstly get some GINGER BEER ( D & G old Jamaican is the best) some fresh lime and a dash of Angostura bitters. This will taste very similar to Goslings " Dark n Stormy. The 2nd mixer is a bible...! But on a serious note Bunderberg and ginger beer is so popular in Austrailia that the Bundy company have now started selling Bunderberg Ginger Beer to mix especially with their 3 different rums! They also sell Bundy and Ginger in a bottle called...Dark and Stormy.

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