Vinums are clunkers compared to Spiegelaus. Most wine pros I know uses Spiegelau for home use. Know a few with Sommeliers but none with Vinums. INAO tasting glasses are more versatile than you think, Shaw. Work well for all whites, desserts, spirits, and some reds. Only thing they really torture is Burgundy. Great for everyday use, picnic use, dishwasher, small enough to store lots of them, only about Ū.50 each if you get them in the right place. ----- Chris