Interesting. All I know is that three generations of my family have gone to Pat's, as have many of other families I know, so if that makes us toursits.....Now, it is true that the place has changed in the 30+ years I have gone there, and have become somewhat user-friendly (originally, if you hesitated ordering for a second, you were yelled at "what are you, paralyzed!") To be honest, we all thought that Genos was the tourist joint, for it had inside seating; at Pat's you had to deal with the elements, while you enjoyed your little piece of perfection.... Tony Lukes was where we went for roast pork sandwiches, not cheesesteaks. I was still looking forward to seeing how the NYC operation was, but they were under renovation, and will be for another week at least.