I'm still waiting for a true challenge. If you're up for it, then put together the 'rules' and we can start making it happen. In the coffee-world, we call that "put your money where your mouth is." ← I'd be interested in seeing {Michael} take the challenge. It would be real nice watching Superbowl this year on the Plazma TV Nick would probably buy with the winnings Maybe {Michael} could catter too? Dasein Had to edit in Michael's name.... for some reason I called him Ian (I'd explain, it has something to do with the font on my computer and his user name -- but I still messed it up. Sorry).