ok..so here's the update ! all went picture perfect until after i finished cutting the dough ..i thought the circles were too small so i decided to repeat, mixed them all back together and things got from bad to worse, the dough was hardening..i needed double the force to roll, my daughter was pulling on my pants that she wanted her yamy yamy (food)..so i gave her dinner and im feeling mybe my dough is hardening under the halogen light on the kitchen table (turned it off)...patience running low..the resultant pies looked more like funny creatures from the moon! I place them in oven (lower rack, temp 375) and when i sneaked a peak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! half were opened (too much meat, or slot too small) so i thought ..its ok ..and after another 5 minutes , i checked again..they were burnt on one side and still not done on other!!!. My conclusion: too much filling, too much time delay, oven too hot, use upper rack. Life is great and next time will be better Actually, Im having one at the moment, mmmm, as lara would say: yamy yamy