Some of the more general coffee knowledge in this thread has been very educational. Of Vancouver coffee, I can't really speak with much authority. In Calgary, we have, I believe, two in house roasters, neither of which actually make tremendous coffee - Like the difference between burnt onions and carmelized onions - I find both the Roasterie and The Planet to carry some scratchy burnt out beans. I worked for the Kensington Second Cup close to a decade ago - At the time, they were the highest per customer ratio of espresso based drinks in the country (among that franchise). Out here in our "little city" options are less available it seems. There are many independent coffee shops but few varieties in roaster, and I think few of them do the volume necessary to have a decent barista and fresh enough espresso beans. As a result - despite the general outcry against the "chains" there are locations in which they could well be the best choice. If anyone knows of some high volume accessible coffee shops that have the bling - please let me know. As far as buying decent beans in town - I find picking darker beans from the second cup, from bins with unopened sealed bags, is the only consistent bean quality I've found. God knows, at most locations, Starbucks is still pitching pre-ground holiday beans at full price. Though, I don't know if there is a fresher dark roast coffee to be had in the city. We don't really have the luxury of extensive choice.