Thank you all for the warm welcome ....... I have been hunting recipies and methods of cooking NC BBQ for a long time to no avail as it seems those in the know want to keep the interlopers from learning the secrets to Pork Nirvana. It was indeed refreshing to have Varmit give up information so freely. Varmit ..... is there not a way to use the brinkman or weber on a Boston Butt to achieve Eastern BBQ without having to grill an entire pig? I have done half and whole pigs before but always burried with rocks or on a spit. I have no large pit or smoker though I will gain one in the future <I hope>. Squeat ......... my condensed history ........ Born 1/26/54 at Camp LeJune, father from West "By God" Virginia mother from Wilmington, father got out of the Corps and went back to the mines of Logan County WVA, Alantic Coastline moved to Jacksonville Fla thus so too my Momma's parents, shortly thereafter the mines shut down while in Jax for Christmas and we stayed as my Dad found a job making Paper and I was pulled from the two room school house in Landville WVa and placed in a school with more students than Landville and Man had citizens. Then in the sumer between the 7th and 8th grades my Dad got a job as electrician at Gilman Paper Co in StMarys Ga whereupon we moved to another rual enviroment which after living in Jax was like returning to the Ice Age. I graduated from Camden County High School in 1971 at 17 as I started at 5 in WVa. Went to college and was just too young made deans list first quarter flunked out second thus I became a Paper Maker. Did a stint in the Navy married a Texas girl < I was stationed in Dallas>had a child 13 years later divirced and remarried to an Airforce brat whose roots are in StJoseph. After 22 years of making paper My health was failing so I medically retired from Gilman and was deemed 100% disabled by Social Security, my wife and I both wanted out of Camden County and I needed a drier climate, as we searched for where to move her Grandmother died and we came here to StJoe to bury her, the wife started in on moving to Mo from that point on , then about 3 months later her step grandfather died leaving the house to his side which we purchased from them, thus I am now in StJoe. It is nice but very different than anything I am used to. KC BBQ is too dang sweet!!!!! Our house is in the Musem Hill Area of town is 157 years old and needs lots of work and TLC, the rub is everything has to go through the historic society before it can be done and certain materials can not be employed thus increased cost in refurbishing it, but we will get it all fixed and made ready for another 157 years of use. BTW if you are a Ives, Heath, Cain , Innis or Dury you are probably a cousin. Sidratha