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ou really can't be suggesting that the law be applied on a case-by-case basis, can you?
edit for clarity: case-by-case as in "the guy who runs it smokes", so smoking is allowed.
No, but there should be a way that those people can go about their business unfettered by a law that has no relevance to their situation. The suggestions I made earlier, in this case sole proprietor exemption, would at least give places an 'out'. I seem to think the state law might've at one point had some of these exclusions.
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That makes a lot more sense. I clearly remember in some of his places smoking myself or seeing others light up only to have an ashtray placed in front of them and no one ever said a thing. I can understand not having smoking in a eatery, especially the higher end places who cater to customers who are accustomed to that, but what of the blue collar guy in the Holiday Lounge? There's no food there, nothing but old drunk guys who all smoke, run by a bartender who smokes. It seems unfair that a place should be forced to adhere to a law made to protect an employee who doesn't exist.
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Funny, I've smoked in a Danny Meyer restaurant...
There was never any smoking allowed in any of Danny Meyer's bars and most of his bars were pretty well separated from the main dining areas so that smoke could have been handled by ventilating systems to allow diners a relatively smoke free environment.Can you clear this up? There's a flaw in the logic. If smoking was never allowed, then why were most of his bars separated from the dining areas and what was being handled by the ventilation systems providing you a relatively smoke free environment?
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Middle ground would be smoking bars/non smoking bars, limited smoking licenses, improved ventilation, sole proprietorship exclusion, or smoking lounges to name a few.
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2 small points...
The report that states that there are more jobs in bars is true, because a fair amount of the bartenders I know had to get second jobs because of the loss to their income because of the smoking ban. There was a good article in the paper the other day that quoted a bar owner as saying that a regular smoking customer would come in for 5 hours before the ban, now they are in less then 4 because they spend the rest of the time outside. That's an hour of profit out of his pocket.
What gets my goat about the whole issue is that there was never a pilot program, or a trial period or anything. It went from smoke all you want anywhere, to never smoke again anywhere. There should have been some middle ground. It's an interesting fact that before the ban when the administration was spouting that non smoking bars would make more money, there wasn't one 'non-smoking' bar in town. You'd think if it were such a cash cow someone would have been doing it the whole time.
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McHale's is a great burger. I eat there often and love every variation they have, the black bean burger is great and for under $10 it's one of the better deals in Hell's Kitchen. Their specials are usually pretty good to boot. I'd avoid the cheesesteak though it's far too greasey and is, I hate to say it, too large. Also avoid the potato skins, they're pretty awful.
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Thursday, just before Isabel hit, I shot over to 11th ave. I picked up the Beef Rib, Creamed Corn, Baked Beans and the Mason jar of Tea. $13.00, a great deal.
I walked down to the ferry station to take a boat back to my Jersey home, thinking that if I cath the boat at the right time I could be home in 20 minutes and it'd still be fresh. While sitting on the dock my stomach got the better of me and I lopped of a hunk of the rib, just to taste it of course. Once it hit my mouth I was moved, immediately, to run inside and set up on one of the little counters they have there. I was completely unable to stop myself from devouring the entire thing. It was easily the best BBQ I've had in New York, and possibly the best in my life. I thought Blue Smoke was good, I even know the sous chef, when I saw her the next day I told her there was a new boss in town. It was close to a religous experience.
The Corn and Beans I held off on until later that night, they made a good snack during the storm. Both were fantastic. The corn has maybe a little too much cream, it was a tad watery, but the addition of greeen and red peppers really made it bite. The Beans, well, everyone loves the beans, I can't say anything that hasn't already been said.
Just go already.
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Thursday, just before Isabel hit, I shot over to 11th ave. I picked up the Beef Rib, Creamed Corn, Baked Beans and the Mason jar of Tea. $13.00, a great deal.
I walked down to the ferry station to take a boat back to my Jersey home, thinking that if I cath the boat at the right time I could be home in 20 minutes and it'd still be fresh. While sitting on the dock my stomach got the better of me and I lopped of a hunk of the rib, just to taste it of course. Once it hit my mouth I was moved, immediately, to run inside and set up on one of the little counters they have there. I was completely unable to stop myself from devouring the entire thing. It was easily the best BBQ I've had in New York, and possibly the best in my life. I thought Blue Smoke was good, I even know the sous chef, when I saw her the next day I told her there was a new boss in town. It was close to a religous experience.
The Corn and Beans I held off on until later that night, they made a good snack during the storm. Both were fantastic. The corn has maybe a little too much cream, it was a tad watery, but the addition of greeen and red peppers really made it bite. The Beans, well, everyone loves the beans, I can't say anything that hasn't already been said.
Just go already.
NYC Smoking Ban
in New York: Dining
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I can't seem to find it online but I read a news article recently that said Cali's smoking ban has gone un-enforced by police and ignored by many bars.