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#151 andiesenji

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 04:51 PM



Thank you Andi! I was worried about using them, no more. :biggrin:


As long as the liquid doesn't smell like furniture polish, you are good to go.


I believe someone asked in another thread, "But what if your furniture polish smells like lemon?" :laugh:

Mine smelled lemony but not "off". They were definitely fine.



I'm talking about the smell you get with "Pledge" and "Murphy's Oil Soap" - there is a distinct difference.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 07:53 PM

Ah, got it. Thanks andie.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:49 AM

Hi everyone; board newbie here. Also lemon preservation newbie concerned about food safety. I've read the rest of the posts but may have missed something; apologies if so.

I just took down my first batch of lemons, which has been quietly sitting on the kitchen shelf for about five weeks total. I opened it up and there was a slight whoosh of escaping air—not like the jar tried to explode or anything, but there was definitely pressure being released. The lemons smell fine and have no mold. Should I be worried? It's the air pressure release that has me a bit concerned. I know that it'd be pretty difficult for most bacteria to survive that much salt and acid, but—thought I'd ask if anyone had a similar experience or knew if this was a warning sign. Thanks!

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:17 PM

I've eaten most of my first batch and I don't seem to have contracted anything. My guess is you're fine.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:36 PM

Here is a link to a Chinese ethnic minority version of preserved lemons which I am still using. They have been preserved for 15 years now. Had some yesterday.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:14 AM

The middle eastern store in which I shop has a big "pickle jar" (about 3 gallons) in which they have preserved lemons. The ones on the top, ready for use are in a plastic basket which occupies the top half of the container.
They lift it out and add new lemons and more salt to the bottom and the basket is replaced which pushes the new lemons to the bottom.
I think this is a very clever method of keeping a large batch (they sell a lot) of preserved lemons going. The lady told me that they dump the brine and replenish the salt with a new batch of lemons in the bottom about every six months. The preserved lemons look perfect on the outside, the insides look the same as the ones I have made at home and I have bought some and used them.
They taste exactly the same.
She tells me they have only refrigerated the batch when they close the store for their annual vacation when they put everything even remotely perishable in their walk-in fridge, even the stuff in the display fridges, because they have a backup generator for the walk-in in case of a power failure.
She says that people "back home" don't usually have fridges and the stores that sell stuff like this have limited fridge space so "preserving" means not having to refrigerate usually perishable items for use all year.
She mentioned that "back home" they preserve the grape leaves essentially the same way and they are never refrigerated.

Edited by andiesenji, 25 August 2012 - 11:15 AM.

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#157 Franci

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 02:24 PM

I'm almost out of preserved lemons, batch from June 2011. So I started a new jar yesterday following P. Wolfert 30 days recipe. I had a lot of peels, from the lemons I squeezed to fill my new jar.
I think I read here or somewhere else on the board that some people use the old pickling liquid to start a new batch. I decided against it but I still saved a small jar of the liquid...so it came natural to me to dump all the peels I had from squeezing the lemons in the old pickling liquid.
Do you think it's a bad idea? Should I add more salt?

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 02:35 PM

I think I remember Paula saying not to reuse the old liquid...

#159 Franci

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:33 PM

Thank you, Patrick! I'll toss it, better safe.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:35 PM

Here's the recipe I use for preserving or pickling lemons...

http://www.paajaka.c...mon-pickle.html


Its says 10 days here, but I usually let it go for more like a month.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

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Since this year our one lemon tree gave us hundreds of beautiful lemons we have put up this batch of preserved lemons, made lemon marmalade, lemoncillo, gave away lots of them and are using lemons on everything. It is a blessing.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:47 PM

*bump*

Someplace up-topic, a few people have asked whether there's any use for the brine of the lemons. I use a small amount of brine to add a kick to sauces or vinaigrettes. I also use the pulp in skillet-style dishes (stovetop cookery); the pulp adds flavor and a bit of texture. I don't know why people say to stick with the rind only.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

For those of you with sous vide equipment you may want to check out this method which turns out preserved lemons in 8 hours start to finish:

http://http://svkitchen.com/?p=614

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

I just "found" mine in the back of the fridge, put them up about 2 years ago, never used them, never even opened them. Figured I'll trash them, but tasted a bit, quite good! There's no way anything will grow in that much salt and acid, and it seems they are good indefinitely. Mine are very very soft, but I'm gonna use them soon now. Not sure I'll put up more, since I can buy small jars and don't seem to need them much, but maybe once I use them more...

IMO there's very little danger for food poisoning, if something is bad you most likely will smell it and know it, nothing dangerous I'm aware of can grow in there. It's a simple technique that's been used for thousands of years by people w/o running water or much use of even the word "sanitary" :-)
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:12 PM

Like you said very inhospitable environment for bacterial growth. As long as they didn't take up any metallic taste from a Ball jar lid you should be fine

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 05:18 AM

You cannot talk about Moroccan cuisine and not to mention preserved lemons in one of its dishes.

This important ingredient of Moroccan cooking, usually used with chicken, seems to have different origins. Some referred it to Jews who have a slightly different procedure for preserving it, which involves the use of olive oil. Others claimed that the Persians brought the lemon to Greece, and their method is simple: Quarter the lemons, salt, and cover in lemon juice.

The method I’m showing you today is used by my mom. It’s very simple and doesn’t require much time to do.

 

DSCN3152.JPG Ingredients

  • 5 lemons
  • 4 tablespoons for each lemon

Preparation

1. Quarter the lemons from the top to within 1/2 inch of the bottom, put salt inside each lemon, and then reshape the fruit.

2. Place 1 tablespoon salt on the bottom of the jar. Pack in the lemons and push them down, adding more salt. Press the lemons down to release their juices and to make room for the remaining lemons. Leave some air space before sealing the jar.

3. Let the lemons ripen in a warm place, shaking the jar each day to distribute the salt and juice. Let ripen for 30 days.

4. To use, rinse the lemons, as needed, under running water, removing and discarding the pulp, if desired — and there is no need to refrigerate after opening. Preserved lemons will keep up to a year, and the pickling juice can be used two or three times over the course of a year.



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Posted 09 June 2014 - 05:28 AM

I assume that it is 4 tablespoons of SALT per lemon?

#168 btissame

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 07:36 AM

yes, 4Tbs of salt for each lemon and one at the bottom of the jar. The salt helps the lemon to release its juice. It's an easy way to make preserved lemons.



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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:36 AM

30 days? My Zhuang Preserved Lemons are almost 17 years old and just coming to perfection.



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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:19 AM

I've never really measured the amount of salt per lemon. I use about 1/2 cup kosher salt and 4-5 lemons per sterilized jar. You'll be putting maybe 1-2 tablespoons salt on the bottom, then add lemons that have been partially slitted (I like to do a cross-hatch at one end and sprinkle salt inside. Add lemons and salt. If you're going to use aromatics like bay leaf and peppercorn, add those too. Repeat until the jar is filled nearly to the brim. Top up with freshly squeezed lemon juice. Seal. Store in cool, dark place for 1 week. Shake the jar every day. Transfer the jar to the fridge after a week, and store for 3 more weeks. Shake the jar each day. Lemons are ready to use after approx. 30 total days.

Edited by SobaAddict70, 09 June 2014 - 09:21 AM.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 11:20 AM

I do the 30 day version as well (can't wait 17 years to serve my customers).  I add a pinch of saffron and a green cardamom to mine.


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#172 btissame

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 11:26 AM

once you preserve lemons or any vegetable, olives, it goes a long way. but you can start using the preserved lemons after a month, the color is vibrant and the taste is quite fresh. My mom have them preserved for years too. Good idea to use safran and cardamon, I will try it...

 

in my next post, I will do a traditional chicken with preserved lemons.



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Posted 16 July 2014 - 10:20 AM

You cannot talk about Moroccan cuisine and not to mention preserved lemons in one of its dishes.
This important ingredient of Moroccan cooking, usually used with chicken, seems to have different origins. Some referred it to Jews who have a slightly different procedure for preserving it, which involves the use of olive oil. Others claimed that the Persians brought the lemon to Greece, and their method is simple: Quarter the lemons, salt, and cover in lemon juice.
The method I’m showing you today is used by my mom. It’s very simple and doesn’t require much time to do.
 
attachicon.gifDSCN3152.JPGIngredients

  • 5 lemons
  • 4 tablespoons for each lemon
Preparation
1. Quarter the lemons from the top to within 1/2 inch of the bottom, put salt inside each lemon, and then reshape the fruit.
2. Place 1 tablespoon salt on the bottom of the jar. Pack in the lemons and push them down, adding more salt. Press the lemons down to release their juices and to make room for the remaining lemons. Leave some air space before sealing the jar.
3. Let the lemons ripen in a warm place, shaking the jar each day to distribute the salt and juice. Let ripen for 30 days.
4. To use, rinse the lemons, as needed, under running water, removing and discarding the pulp, if desired — and there is no need to refrigerate after opening. Preserved lemons will keep up to a year, and the pickling juice can be used two or three times over the course of a year.

I followed your procedure and everything turned out great!!! Thanks

Edited by Naftal, 16 July 2014 - 10:22 AM.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 05:49 AM

Making preserved limes.

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4 limes, quartered
4 tablespoons sea salt
2 tablespoons sugar
1/2 tablespoon thyme
1/2 cup lime juice
1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil

After that photo was shot, I waited about a day before transferring it to a larger jar, then added some more limes, salt and lime juice. I was concerned that I hadn't left as much "air space" in the first jar as I needed.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:28 PM

I've made several jars of preserved lemons as well as limes. I don't measure out the salt any more and just make sure they are well coated inside and out as well as putting a good dose of salt in the bottom of the jar. I haven't noticed much variation in taste or texture