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#1 Becca Porter

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 07:25 AM

Thanks to Darcies blog I am craving this cake. I am making it today, along with the Rainbow Jello mold I made last night.

I made the filling last night as the recipe suggested. However, I would really like to do the 12 layers by cutting the 3 9-inch layers in half.

I was wondering if anyone else has done this without doubling the filling. Was it enough?

You would think the recipe would account for that since it is the way it is served at the restarant.

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 08:29 AM

Thanks to Darcies blog I am craving this cake. I am making it today, along with the Rainbow Jello mold I made last night.

I made the filling last night as the recipe suggested. However, I would really like to do the 12 layers by cutting the 3 9-inch layers in half.

I was wondering if anyone else has done this without doubling the filling. Was it enough?

You would think the recipe would account for that since it is the way it is served at the restarant.

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Glad to be an inspiration! I am quite sure you will have to double the filling because it was only just enough to fill in between 3 layers. It was about 1/4 inch thick between each layer and I don't think you would want to go much thinner. That cake is scrumptious!
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#3 Becca Porter

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 08:47 AM

Thank you for your reply, Darcie. I guess I will just do the three cake layers this time. I can't wait to eat it!
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Posted 02 February 2006 - 12:01 PM

Everyone I've heard speak of making it has seemed to tweak it in some way...Ling, DarcieB and myself, for example. I may have gone the farthest afield in that I used another recipe for the cake! (I had an interesting 2-layer cake recipe that I wanted to try and also needed a smaller cake).

It would be interesting to hear your comments, whether you follow the recipe as is or make adjustments. Same to anyone else out there that has made this.

Good luck and enjoy your delicious cake!
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Posted 02 February 2006 - 12:06 PM

I made extra filling even when I was only splitting my two 9" cakes to make four layers, and I also reduced the amount of cake by about 1/4...I really prefer it with more filling, and less cake, as I found the cake quite dense. (I also like it made with unsweetened, fine coconut...I don't like the texture of the bigger pieces in the sweetened stuff I get here. Oh, and a bit of extra sour cream makes it taste better, I think!)

The cake portion of the recipe is not my favourite recipe to use...I would use Sarah Phillip's butter cake recipe in the "Best Of" thread next time I do the cake, and use Darcie's suggestion of adding coconut milk + extract. :smile:

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 12:23 PM

How do you get to the "Best of" threads? Cannot seem to find it...

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 12:35 PM

there you go :smile:

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 12:37 PM

How do you get to the "Best of" threads?  Cannot seem to find it...

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It would be nice to have those pinned... maybe we can ask the mods about that.

I just searched "coconut" in the title and in the P&B forum.

Here's a thread on "best" coconut cake, with some comments on the Peninsula Coconut Cake as well.

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 07:43 PM

Okay I followed Darcies changes. 1/4 teaspoon coconut extract in the filling and 1/4 cup cream of coconut in the filling and cake in place of heavy cream.

This is the best coconut cake I've ever made. I thought I loved my Cooks Illustrated recipe but it didn't touch this. This would be one of my top 5 favorite cakes of all time.

My bil doesn't really even like coconut but he loved this. It was SO good.

It is these nights I wish I had a digital camera. (Is it wrong that I want one for food photography more than for my children. :huh: )
I wish you all could see my beautiful rainbow mold and coconut cake. One day...
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Posted 03 February 2006 - 02:52 AM

My bil doesn't really even like coconut but he loved this. It was SO good.

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Glad you liked it! It is one of my favourites too and I'm not a coconut fan either! I like it a lot better with the fine coconut though, like I mentioned above. It's just the texture of the coarser coconut I can't stand.

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 11:40 AM

I mentioned this in DarcieB's blog, but for future reference here were my modifications... (so far!)

Use grated (medium holes) fresh coconut in both the filling and for covering the cake. I did not toast the coconut b/c I just like the flavor of untoasted coconut better. The toasted coconut cake looks beautiful but I also love the look of the pure white cake. I didn't add any other flavoring to the filling--to me, it had a pure lovely taste with the fresh coconut in it.

I had to laugh when I saw Ling's post above, because I have the opposite "taste' in this case. :smile: I really don't like the dried, finely flaked coconut (does not have much coconut flavor to me and I don't like the texture) so I really like the bigger flakes. Again, this is preference is when using fresh coconut.

The cake recipe I used had fresh coconut milk in it and grated lime zest; a firm, dense and delicious cake.

I liked the cream cheese/butter frosting very much in combination with this cake, but I might try decreasing the proportion of cream cheese to butter next time to have a less tangy result.

Now that I'm armed with a digital camera, I'll take a photo next time!
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Posted 04 February 2006 - 10:40 PM

ok....i am so curious...where do I find the actual peninsula grill coconut cake recipe?? I haven't been able to read the actual recipe, but I've read all of your comments :biggrin:

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Posted 04 February 2006 - 11:29 PM

Peninsula Grill coconut cake

I'll have to try the lime in the cake next time, ludja! That sounds great!

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 09:30 PM

Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I didn't exactly love this cake even though the finished product looked spectacular. Oh, I liked the filling and the frosting, but the cake itself pretty much sucked. The crumb was coarse, on the dry side, it crumbled an awful lot when cutting and I thought the flavor profile was flat. For the hit on the fat grams delivered by the huge amount of fat in this cake I was expecting something better than what I got. I wish I had found this thread before I baked it. I like the idea of both the lime and coconut milk. I did add some coconut extract to the filling which helped enhance the flavor on that component.

I'm a pretty good baker when it comes to cakes, but as I went back over how I made it, I really couldn't come up with a good reason for the cake to have been as dry and crumbly as it was. I was pretty precise with the method.

I really do like coconut cake, so I may go ahead and make this again and do some tinkering. If I do, I'll probably reduce the amount of overall fat in the recipe and switch the heavy cream in the cake itself to buttermilk and perhaps add some coconut extract to the batter as well. I might also consider using lime curd in place of the filling. I just kind of fail to see what the hype is about this recipe and this cake. :sad:

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Posted 08 February 2006 - 03:21 AM

^Yeah, I agree. The cake portion was just OK. The filling is great, though. :smile:

#16 Wendy DeBord

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Posted 08 February 2006 - 07:06 AM

I think I wrote this previously, I like Ina Gartners coconut cake recipe the best of all I've ever had.

The peninsula grill cake doesn't have coconut or coconut milk in the cake...........so it's not really a coconut cake.

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Posted 08 February 2006 - 08:47 AM

Darcie and I both added creme of coconut to the cake as well as a little extract. Perhaps that is why I was so happy with it.

The cake has to be on the firm side so that it is easily sliced in half.
I loved it. I wouldn't mind trying Inas though.
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Posted 20 March 2006 - 01:20 PM

Darcie and I both added creme of coconut to the cake as well as a little extract. Perhaps that is why I was so happy with it.

The cake has to be on the firm side so that it is easily sliced in half.
I loved it. I wouldn't mind trying Inas though.
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Okay...I am confused...do you add the creme of coconut to the Peninsula Cake recipe....how much? And do you eliminate anything else? Wendy..do you change anything in the Ina Garten recipe?

I saw one recipe for a cake where they put a syrup of coconut cream/water and brush it on the cake...I thought that might make it more coconutty. If I froze the layers...would I put the syrup on before I froze the layers..or after it has defrosted?
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:04 AM

I think we both just replaced about 1/4 to 1/2 cup of heavy cream with the coconut cream. It is an absolutely delicious cake. Report back if you make it.
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#20 Wendy DeBord

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:05 AM

Wendy..do you change anything in the Ina Garten recipe?

I saw one recipe for a cake where they put a syrup of coconut cream/water and brush it on the cake...I thought that might make it more coconutty.  If I froze the layers...would I put the syrup on before I froze the layers..or after it has defrosted?
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I like the Garten cake as is. I don't think the coconut taste needs to be punched up.

If you wanted, you could definately brush a syrup on to add to the flavor. I'd be more likely to use a simple syrup with a coconut liqour then a water mixture. You can put the syrup on either before or after, just so long as the cake is defrosted when you apply the syrup so it's absorbed.

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:30 AM

Having had the actual Peninsula Grill coconut cake four times, and hearing the reports of how the cake comes out when prepared according to the home recipe, I've got to say I'm suspicious of the recipe that Bon Appetit printed. The Peninsula folks have been famously guarded about that recipe, not wanting to enable commercial reproduction (they sell the cakes by mail at an exorbitant price). Certainly, the cake as served in the restaurant (and the mail order version, which is about the same) is anything but dry.

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 01:08 PM

So, I'm thinking of making this cake for my mother's 70th birthday (which just so happens to be on March 21st the date of the last posts on this thread!) and I'm at a loss as to how to proceed.

Fat Guy and I have discussed a strategy and of course, I'll have to do a trial run first (poor us, we'll have to eat a coconut cake for the cause) but did anyone have any final reports on their experiences with the cake?

I'm thinking of using an altogether different cake recipe and adding some creme of coconut and/or coconut extract and do the cake with the Peninsula frosting and filling.

Any further reports would be most welcome.
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Posted 28 February 2008 - 02:03 PM

So, I'm thinking of making this cake for my mother's 70th birthday (which just so happens to be on March 21st the date of the last posts on this thread!) and I'm at a loss as to how to proceed.

Fat Guy and I have discussed a strategy and of course, I'll have to do a trial run first (poor us, we'll have to eat a coconut cake for the cause) but did anyone have any final reports on their experiences with the cake?

I'm thinking of using an altogether different cake recipe and adding some creme of coconut and/or coconut extract and do the cake with the Peninsula frosting and filling.

Any further reports would be most welcome.

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It's been quite awhile since I've made it so I'm trying to remember. I know for sure it looked very impressive. Unless you have a lot of people tasting the trial run I would halve the recipe and bake it in three 6"pans as it is quite rich. The filling was excellent but I think you're right about the cake. If you've got a favourite yellow cake recipe, I'd use that and add coconut extract. I think it would be a great choice for a 70th birthday.
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Posted 28 February 2008 - 03:19 PM

If you plug Ultimate Coconut Cake into the recipe search feature at marthastewart.com, there's a nifty video demo by Robert Carter from the Peninsula Grill.

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 06:52 PM

We'll be doing our weekly shop tomorrow and I've put the ingredients for the frosting and filling on the list. I've put the cake on the back burner (so to speak) for now.

I'll let you know how it goes. My cousin is very excited about the trial run!
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 09:02 AM

Having had the actual Peninsula Grill coconut cake four times, and hearing the reports of how the cake comes out when prepared according to the home recipe, I've got to say I'm suspicious of the recipe that Bon Appetit printed. The Peninsula folks have been famously guarded about that recipe, not wanting to enable commercial reproduction (they sell the cakes by mail at an exorbitant price). Certainly, the cake as served in the restaurant (and the mail order version, which is about the same) is anything but dry.

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I've noticed that the recipes on Epicurious' website are different from the recipes on Martha Stewart's Website. I plugged them both into Mastercook and scaled them based on flour amounts and they're different, for both the cake and the filling. Also, Martha Stewart's calls for simple syrup which could account for moisture issues. I've had the best success with using the recipes for the Shubox Coconut Cake and frosting found on Epicurious Website paired with the Peninsula grill filling. Both cakes and frostings are similar but the addition of cream of coconut to the Shubox cake and frosting are what put it over the top IMHO. Also, the Shubox cake is a little lighter due to whipping and folding in the egg whites.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 12:56 PM

i worked at peninsula grill for close to 4 years and made HUNDREDS of coconut cakes. the recipies you find online are not correct. one tip is to put the shredded coconut for the filling in the food processor. it makes it easier to spread, and when you cut your cakes, the strands dont pull on the cake layers underneath :wink: makes for a very sharp presentation.

oh, and serve at room temp!!
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 03:11 PM

i worked at peninsula grill for close to 4 years and made HUNDREDS of coconut cakes.  the recipies you find online are not correct.  one tip is to put the shredded coconut for the filling in the food processor.  it makes it easier to spread, and when you cut your cakes, the strands dont pull on the cake layers underneath :wink: makes for a very sharp presentation. 

oh, and serve at room temp!!

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I've never had the original cake... but I've used the filling recipe from Epicurious, and definitely put the coconut in the food processor first so it is easier to eat.

How would your recollection compare to the epicurious recipe - for the filling, I mean. Any changes that you would suggest for me the next time I make the filling :wink: ?





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