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[Keith Talent]

Sysco doesn't call it meat, it's protein.

[Coop]

I have been thinking back about my recent posts.....loved Cru, Parkside, Tasting bar at Lumiere, Fiction, West......the only place I was really negative about in 600+ posts was Joe Fortes when the Fat Guy said it was the best place in Vancouver. I just said I didn't think it was very good. I ate there numerous times, spent lot's of money but just never thought it was worth it. I just don't get the connection between this Cioffi's/ butcher thing and me being negative....


Hey wait a minute!

[Chef Fowke]

I have been thinking back about my recent posts.....loved Cru, Parkside, Tasting bar at Lumiere, Fiction, West......the only place I was really negative about in 600+ posts was Joe Fortes when the Fat Guy said it was the best place in Vancouver. I just said I didn't think it was very good. I ate there numerous times, spent lot's of money but just never thought it was worth it. I just don't get the connection between this Cioffi's/ butcher thing and me being negative....


Hey wait a minute!

...and Coop, your posts were well written, articulate and informative. I appreciated your opinion and acted on it, as much as was in my power.

As to the best butchers in town, yes to all your selections...with the exception of the Merguez Sausage. Their is a gentleman in town, named John Eve, who makes/distributes the best. Unfortunately I do not know how to get a hold of him unless you work in a hospitality industry.

This brings up a good point. The best meats are still all purchased by the restaurants/hotels. For all the money in the world it is next to impossible (with a few exceptions) to purchase Prime Canadian at the retail level. But to find Canadian Prime that has been dried aged for 28 days is impossible. Why deal with a piece of meat that is so expensive if it is not aged properly?

Sidebar...went to Granville Island last Sunday. Visited with the butcher three isles up from the main entrance. Real Calabrese Sausage, Chorizo Sausage, etc and many variations made with wild boar, etc.

[Coop]

It's probably just me but I really love the Frieden Merguez. I have never been to Provence and had the real thing so i can't compare it to anything except what's available here and in Seattle (at le Pichet). I like it grilled and served with roasted potatoes, grilled vegetables and a mediocre bottle of Chianti like Le Fonti 2001. While at Santa Barbara i'll usually get a loaf of the Westview Bakery Pao de Casa.

[Chef Fowke]

I put a call in this morning....The Merguez Sausage should be here in a couple of days, it is in the style of Toulouse. Coop, I will PM you when it gets in...

[Keith Talent]

Next we need to have a sausage shootout. Cities best sausage, style unimportant. I'd say that the only criteria is it needs to be suitable for grilling. Any ideas?

[Chef Fowke]

Next we need to have a sausage shootout. Cities best sausage, style unimportant. I'd say that the only criteria is it needs to be suitable for grilling. Any ideas?

Criteria would need to be....

1) Dry Cured
2) Smoked
3) Ready for the grill

Exciting! Sausage is the eye to the soul of a culture.

[nwyles]

Exciting! Sausage is the eye to the soul of a culture.

A little dramatic don't you think !

[Daddy-A]

Exciting! Sausage is the eye to the soul of a culture.

A little dramatic don't you think !

Well, you know these chefs ... next to poets on the dramatic scale

I had a really terrific sausage last weekend at Paprika in Victoria ... chicken with chantrelles & carraway seed. Very tasty, although it lacked a little in the fat department which to me makes for a really great sausage. It was served with a selection of pickles gerkins, cabbage, beets & carrots. Hard to find good pickles these days.

Provence Marinaside does a nice meguez sandwich for lunch ... but I'm partial to lamb. Cioffi's lamb sausage is good too.

DA

[stovetop]

Freybe sausage rules!
steve

[stovetop]

My picks

penquin meats- white rock
Artic meats -commercial
jacksons- 4th and granville
columbus-victoria drve?
Windsor-main and king edward


One thing that has changed is sometimes meat is processed in the us, but now that the border is closed I do not know what gives with that, aussie beef sucks and most wholesalers and stores are pushing this crap, wher is all the Alberta beef, we would sell out our granmother to save a few cents, what gives.

Edited by stovetop, 18 August 2004 - 12:59 PM.

[Keith Talent]

Not to be indelicate, but chicken sausage can fuck right off.

[Keith Talent]

, we would sell out our granmother to save a few cents, what gives.

You know where to get good grandmother cheap? Dry aged? Do tell.

[stovetop]

Keith don't hold back
steve

[stovetop]

Pork fat rules!!!!!!!!!!!

[stovetop]

You know where to get good grandmother cheap? Dry aged? Do tell.

Yes, mix her with a little pork and chicken just to piss you off, and put into some casings, charbroil and serve with a roasted crabapple compote. Hey it is a house specialty past down from my Hawaiian family when that old and crabby sailor Cook was visiting back in 17 something. A good way to get ride of that old *&)& especially that in-law.
steve

Edited by stovetop, 18 August 2004 - 01:10 PM.

[nwyles]

Australian Beef is graded by the number of teeth in their head. An exact science ??

I do not know if more teeth is better or less ? Does anyone know.

Neil

Seriously , it's true !

Edited by nwyles, 18 August 2004 - 01:52 PM.

[Coop]

I believe that it would be better to have more teeth, from the steer's point of view.

[Daddy-A]

Not to be indelicate, but chicken sausage can fuck right off.

You??? Indelicate??

Seriously Keith, what do you REALLY think? I mean, what did poultry ever do to you?

[Chef Metcalf]

Hi
Newbie here at egullet......sorry to change the subject....

3 P Poultry in North Vancouver (Main and Mountain where the Burger King is).
Great quality non-medicated meats (sans valium or anti-depressants ) that are far tastier and worth the extra price over supermarket meat and poultry offerings.
The staff are very helpful with friendly advice.
Best of all, I can be assured of flavourful and high quality beef and poultry...along with buffalo burgers and the like (however, my craving for Koh Samui buffalo burgers at three AM is over.....thank god). Must have been the water.

[Chef Fowke]

Hi
Newbie here at egullet......sorry to change the subject....

3 P Poultry in North Vancouver (Main and Mountain where the Burger King is).
Great quality non-medicated meats (sans valium or anti-depressants ) that are far tastier and worth the extra price over supermarket meat and poultry offerings.
The staff are very helpful with friendly advice.
Best of all, I can be assured of flavourful and high quality beef and poultry...along with buffalo burgers and the like (however, my craving for Koh Samui buffalo burgers at three AM is over.....thank god). Must have been the water.

Where is it? I live by the Seymour River and I have never seen this place...do they sell retail?

I am already drooling...I am so excited that I can get good stuff so close to home.

[Chef Metcalf]

3P Natural and Exotic Meats
103-223 Mountain Highway
North Vancouver, BC, British Columbia
604-986-5606

You would probably never go into this strip type mall with the flagship being Burger King . You probably drive by it every day if you live by the Seymour River, but there is a Chiropractor, 3P Poultry and Sushi Place ect.

Paul, Wendy and crew are very helpful and if you fax in your order they will have it ready for you upon arrival.
Coming from Seymour, take a right onto Mountain Hwy, then a sharp left into the mall.
They do retail, and wholesale to restaurants. Also organic products and great non-chemical sausages.
Chicken breasts are good quality and tasty with very reasonable prices versus say Capers Organic type cyro-packed meats (although those are good quality too).

Looking forward to your review.
Ciao

[Chef Fowke]

Burger King or Wendy's? Are we talking across the street from the new Cove Bike shop?

Sorry, I am lost, I do not know where Burger King is....might be tasty right now!

[Chef Metcalf]

Chef Fowke

Burger King tasty.....that's a pretty desparate measure.....
Here's the location for 3P...
3P Poultry Map

[Lancelot]

FYI... Artic Meats on Commercial closed last year.

[Lancelot]

FYI... Artic Meats on Commercial closed last year.

[stovetop]

That is too bad.
thanks for the info
steve

[nwyles]

FYI... Artic Meats on Commercial closed last year.

Too bad - I would go in there and the place was spotless !

With the sexy smell of bleach. So good !

[stovetop]

Lancelot; what happened??
steve

[Lancelot]

I might not have it quite right... but I think they wanted to shift the focus to wholesale. I'm in wine not food/restaurant business so I'm not sure if they have continued in that direction