best super auto espresso maker
Posted 02 June 2005 - 05:01 PM
Models that I've heard are good for super autos are the Jura-Capresso Impressa Z5 and Saeco Incanto Sirius. Anyone know if they are any good, or if there is another super auto I should look at? Thanks.
Posted 06 June 2005 - 07:07 AM
I've used a low end Saeco superauto in my office for two years. It's been okay but it's in the very lowest end of superauto's and really good just for coffee and not espresso. My intuition and observations lead me to believe that Jura has a lowe repair rate and better reliability record than Saeco but it's a highlu subjective observation.
Posted 07 June 2005 - 10:21 AM
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The Incanto Sirius. Nifty look, metal construction, and a touch screen. Too bad it's still based on the flawed Starbies Italia brew group.
Mark's a pretty sharp guy when it comes to espresso gear and I've found him to be very objective in addition to doing exhausting testing. Further evidence in favor of the Jura.
Posted 07 June 2005 - 11:22 AM
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:43 PM
I think I paid 299 for it from wholelattelove.com if I remember correctly.
On a related tangent, the espresso beans from redbirdcoffee.com are a passionate love affair of mine.
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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:26 AM
Good timing. Our Saeco Odea Giro and backup machine Odea Go both developed serious issues in the past several months, so instead of dealing with repairs I've been on the hunt for a new one that wouldn't cost us any body parts. As mentioned upthread, the Jura machines still have a decent reputation for reliability, but pretty much any superautomatic machine is a risk. The Jura's frothing system can be odd, too; some will do so only via a milk container and plastic tubing.
I decided to get another Giro (the Plus model) because it was familiar and because I got a Seattle Coffee Gear refurb via eBay, with a two-year Square Trade warranty, for about US$360 including shipping.
The Vienna is a good basic machine, too, and less expensive than the Odea. I even bought one a couple of years ago for our faculty lounge.
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