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Genever (Holland Gin)


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#181 tanstaafl2

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 01:46 PM

Yeah, I have the grey glass bottle, the clay bottle labelled Zeer Oude Genever, and I also have a clay bottle of Bols Corenwijn

 

I would guess the Bols Zeer Oude Genever has a pretty high malt content as well. If you have the clay or "stone" bottle it is pretty old as those changed to brown painted glass about 10 years ago.

 

As I understand it Corenwijn is supposed to have at least 51% malt wine as compared to the at least 15% requirement for oude genever. But since Bols has at least 51% in their genever anyway I was never quite sure what the distinction was. Maybe it has even more malt wine content than the Bols genever. I do rather like the aged Corenwijns. I have a Bols 10yo that is quite tasty neat. A lot of places suggest refrigerating or even freezing it like gin but that is just a waste to me.


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#182 Hassouni

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:53 PM

Nah, the Zeer Oude was picked up for me at an airport in the low countries in the last year, as was my Corenwijn. It's pretty much brand new. The only problem with the ZO is the crappy 35% ABV. Even the Corenwijn is under 40.

 

I haven't done a side by side tasting of the ZO with the Corenwijn, they seem pretty similar though.


Edited by Hassouni, 21 August 2014 - 02:54 PM.


#183 Rafa

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:20 PM

I've had the recent Zeer and found it delicious on its own in a way the standard US glass bottle genever has never been for me. I didn't mind the proof.
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#184 Hassouni

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:22 PM

Yeah it's a lot maltier



#185 tanstaafl2

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 12:47 PM

I've had the recent Zeer and found it delicious on its own in a way the standard US glass bottle genever has never been for me. I didn't mind the proof.

 

 

Guess I will have to look for that one when I pass through Schiphol in October! Was hoping the duty free had something interesting other than local spirits but I am not going to hold my breath. Most Duty Free shops are pretty lackluster.


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#186 Czequershuus

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:45 PM

Improvised a genever cocktail tonight and was quite happy with the result. I have dubbed it the Magically Delicious, as the aromoa oddly remind me of Lucky Charms (YMMV)

 

Magically Delicious

1 Oz Genever (Bols standard American offering)

1 Oz Sweet Vermouth (Carpano Antica)

0.25 Oz Frangelico

2 dashes Boker's Bitters

Stir with ice and strain into a cocktail glass.

 

I am tempted to say garnish with a cereal marshmallow, because the aroma is oddly evocative of a standard breakfast for me at age nine. Regardless, it is a lovely tipple.


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 04:10 AM

"Dear Czequershuus- You account on eGullet has been blocked because you added a marshmallow to a cocktail...."


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 06:03 AM

"Dear Czequershuus- You account on eGullet has been blocked because you added a marshmallow to a cocktail...."

Nah, s'OK. I'm sure it was a marshmallow made with Lillet. (Or would it have to be "Fernet or better" around these parts?)

 

Strangely, I've made that recipe using Suze instead of Lillet, and now whenever I drink Suze, I think it tastes like marshmallows...  :blink:


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#189 JoNorvelleWalker

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 07:23 PM

My introduction to genever is a death in the gulfstream, made with my recently acquired bottle of Diep9 Old.

 

Baker calls for the juice and rind of one green lime, added to a water tumbler of crushed ice, four dashes of Angostura, and filled with Holland gin.

 

Turns out Deip9 is Belgian gin.  Oh well.  That and my last two limes granted a scant 5 ml total.  (I figure what Baker and Hemingway were squeezing down off Key West were key limes, but probably ones with a lot more juice than mine.)

 

I did not have the courage to fill the tumbler.  Not that it's a small tumbler by any means.  And I cut the bitters down to two dashes.

 

But, you know, this is good!  I thought about a straw, since Baker was mute on that detail.  Then I thought of Hemingway.  I'm not sure Hemingway knew what a straw was.



#190 Melinda Staros

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 08:48 PM

Hi Jo, 

 

The drink sounds nice! .. and I think you're right about the straw. :)  But FYI, Holland Gin and Belgian Gin are one in the same --> they are both Genevers. In fact, Holland Gin originated in Belgium and only came to be known as Holland Gin when it was imported into the US before the prohibition. Check out this book about it... http://cocktails.abo...-BookReview.htm

 

Cheers! 

 

 



#191 JoNorvelleWalker

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:38 PM

Thank you!  I put in a request for the book from the library.