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[bleudauvergne]

I just got a Matfer terrine mold off of ebay!! Very excited.  $9.99.  They can go for $80 new.  Has anyone used anything like the one picture below?  The bottom slides out, and the hinges are removable to release the sides.



Ian

It looks like Ian and mrbigjas are going to be doing some terrines in the near future with great pans! Please tell us how you like this mould, does it have a mechanism for pressing the contents? Ian, Why are the sides ridged?

[mrbigjas]

i do plan on doing one! or more!

so far i have only used that pan to make vegetable-based pates for office parties (i always make vegetarian food for office parties, on the theory that everyone can eat it if it tastes good). it doesn't have a method for pressing the contents, which is why i think it's advertised as a pate pan rather than a terrine--although my mental concept of what each of those is could be way off.

the only funky thing about it is getting the gelatin off/out of the bottom and back on top of your pate (i've used agar in the past, to keep it veg). you have to heat the pan a little with some hot water, and still it doesn't come out with the pate--but then again, also, vegetable pates are, in my experience, looser and harder to deal with than the meat pates i've had.

the only problem is, it really does kind of produce a lot of food, and there are only two of us. so i'd have to experiment on guests. which i'm not averse to doing, if i know things are going to turn out OK. it seems like terrines are a good one-dish (plus condiments) meal, if you can get meat and vegetables all in one terrine.

[ianeccleston]

I just got a Matfer terrine mold off of ebay!! Very excited.  $9.99.  They can go for $80 new.  Has anyone used anything like the one picture below?  The bottom slides out, and the hinges are removable to release the sides.



Ian

It looks like Ian and mrbigjas are going to be doing some terrines in the near future with great pans! Please tell us how you like this mould, does it have a mechanism for pressing the contents? Ian, Why are the sides ridged?

Man, I don't know why they are ridged. Maybe it adds small ridges to the final product? The only description I have is on the Matfer web site.

It does say that there it's for pates in crust, which is an exciting thought.

As for weighting it down, I guess I'll use weighted down reinforced cardboard as I do with loaf pans.

Edited by ianeccleston, 11 May 2005 - 01:49 PM.

[Adam Balic]

These are used for making pate/terrines in a crust, the ridges are impressed into the pastry. If you have a top crust, then you don't weight down the terrine. The gap between the force meat and crust is mostly filled in with aspic.

[lexy]

So I'm wondering if I can combine this with the other cooking interest in my life at the moment: rose petals 
(My garden is exploding with roses at the moment)

Does anyone have a terrine like recipe that uses roses?  I could just put them in a rose petal pannacotta, which would be the sweet equivalent, but I figure someone here probably has a brilliant idea already tested...

I know the petals lose color & texture when I boil them in milk for my rose pudding , but if I put them into gelatin when it was no longer quite that hot, would they be OK? 
Hmm, maybe with something similar to Adam Balic's chicken galantine upthread (what WAS the source for that recipe by the way? I haven't played with 17th c. english stuff in a while so I don't recognize it...) I love chicken & roses together!

Is there such a thing as a sweet dessert terrine? (Sort of like jello puddings I suppose). If it's not too sacriligious, a rose petal dessert terrine might be nice.

[Adam Balic]

I guess you could call it that, but "rose petal jelly" (or "Gelée" if you prefer) or "Rose Petal Bavarois ", is proberly better.

[Carolyn Tillie]

I actually own both those pans! The Matfer is straight-sided and a bit smaller in volume. The one mrbigjas showed is ever-so-slightly slanted and the downside to it is that I have actually had to flippy-things that hold the sides together CAN flip down. The Matfer is a bit sturdier and is the one I used in my terrine.

This site shows most of them but who knew they came in so many different sizes?

I also have one that is that shaped like a marquise diamond and here is a picture of a pastry-encased one I made for my Dali Dinner.

Edited to add the last paragraph's pictures

Edited by Carolyn Tillie, 12 May 2005 - 08:29 AM.

[mrbigjas]

I actually own both those pans! The Matfer is straight-sided and a bit smaller in volume. The one mrbigjas showed is ever-so-slightly slanted and the downside to it is that I have actually had to flippy-things that hold the sides together CAN flip down.

whoa--i'll be sure to watch out for that. thanks for the tip.

[Chris Amirault]

Folks, I hope that you'll join us over at the new cook-off, the burger vs. meatloaf battle!

[little ms foodie]

My first terrine, bear with me... I don't even have a terrine mold so I used a mini loaf pan.

asparagus in vegtable aspic



served as an amuse bouche on a sauce of Bucheron



obviously I need to put my stalks closer/tighter together next time so I don't have the overhang on top. But the taste was very nice, I took others advice on this thread and seasoned the aspic liberally when I made it. I also added a bit of fluer de sel finishing salt on top.

[FoodMan]

LMS, that looks pretty darn cool. Very nice work!

Elie

[evilhomer]

asparagus in vegtable aspic
on a sauce of Bucheron

This looks (and I don't use this word lightly) stunning.

I see how the edges could be a bit tighter - there's room for geometric refinements but it is a very exciting plate.

Could you please explain a bit more thoroughly how this is prepared?

[mrbigjas]

asparagus in vegtable aspic
on a sauce of Bucheron

This looks (and I don't use this word lightly) stunning.

I see how the edges could be a bit tighter - there's room for geometric refinements but it is a very exciting plate.

Could you please explain a bit more thoroughly how this is prepared?

what he said!

[little ms foodie]

awww, you guys...thanks for the encouragement! I will say there is no way I would have ever made a terrine were it not for reading this thread.

The recipe is out of my book 'Amuse-Bouche' by rick tramonto

so I made veggie stock and then combined that with gelaton sheets and seasoned (highly) with salt. I did this the day before, kept it in the fridge and warmed it when I was ready to work.

I tried to get all the same size asparagus spears but it is really hard to do that. Blanched the asparagus in salted water. sprayed my mini loaf pan with Pam and lined it with seran wrap. I will also take more care in smoothing the saran next time. You can see the wrinkles on the terrine before it was cut. Then just layer asparagus and veg aspic. I needed to pack those stalks in better. I sealed it up with the wrap, then weighted it with cardboard and a can of soup in the fridge for a day.

Removed sliced and melted some Boucheron with water to make a sauce. This needs to be thinner next time.

The taste was so spring like, fresh and simple.

Thanks again guys, I'll do better next time!!

edited to add that you cut the tips off and only use the stalks.

Edited by little ms foodie, 14 June 2005 - 10:35 AM.

[little ms foodie]

Is there such a thing as a sweet dessert terrine? (Sort of like jello puddings I suppose). If it's not too sacriligious, a rose petal dessert terrine might be nice.

Does this count as a dessert terrine??



Out of The French Laundry Cookbook- strawberry & champagne terrine

[ianeccleston]

Does this count as a dessert terrine??

Hell yes. Looks lovely.

[Eden]

Is there such a thing as a sweet dessert terrine? (Sort of like jello puddings I suppose). If it's not too sacriligious, a rose petal dessert terrine might be nice.

Does this count as a dessert terrine??



Out of The French Laundry Cookbook- strawberry & champagne terrine

How lovely!

Let me guess he calls it strawberry jell-o?

OK when the next round of roses come in I am definately making some kind of a rose-petal terrine!

[FoodMan]

It's getting nice and cool outside, or in my case in Houston, it's getting less humid. The perfect time of year to resurrect this thread, time for kitchen projects, like French terrines. Even though it is not labeled as such, the Rabbit Compote with Prunes, from Paula Wolfert's new edition of her "Cooking of Southwest France", will make for an awsome terrine if made in one. I was thinking I can even layer the prunes halfway through and end up with a nice looking cross section the next time around.

[trillium]

How on earth did I miss this thread?

As some of you know, I posted pictures and such on making my first terrine a couple of years ago. You can see a very beautiful piece of caul fat in the photos, and home made cornichons too.

Last year I made the same terrine, but the liver was fresh (not frozen) and only a couple of days old (well, out of the hog). That made all the difference in terms of crumbliness. We also have two dried salted hams hanging in our living room and kitchen. Guests are always taken aback by our rustic "decorations". We've managed to wait a year for them to age and we're going to cut into them this weekend.

Since then, I've got my mits on the Jane Grigson book, and I've been anxiously awaiting my copy of "Charcuterie: Craft of Salting, Smoking, & Curing" from Jessica's Biscuit. It's driving me nuts because my credit card was charged over a week ago, but I think media mail is taking forever!

This year, unfortunately, the liver from the hog we bought a half of didn't make it past the inspector, but there is another pig adventure afoot the day after Thanksgiving, where I will then be in possession of the liver, blood, and head. Yes, strange things to be excited about, but somehow I think you all will understand.

The thing I'm wondering about is the idea of baking the terrines in glass jars that are then sealed and don't need to be refrigerated. Grigson mentions this as a common practice in France (the edition of my book is 1975). Does anyone still do that? The reason I ask is that this next pig venture is a communal one, and I don't have enough terrines for each family to have. I like the idea of doing it in jars, but I wonder how you can press them afterwards.

regards,
trillium

[FoodMan]

but I wonder how you can press them afterwards.

With a small lid, or maybe a plastic-wrapped cardboard circle cut to shape? just brainstorming here...and please share pics of the hams

[trillium]

I just read in my French charcuterie book the guidelines for "canning" terrines, it seems like you don't really press it, just cook it in the jar, making sure it reaches a certain temp when you process it.

I'll try to take pictures of the hams and post them to flickr next weekend (along with other piggy adventures... ).

regards,
trillium

[MobyP]

Very much inspired by Lucy's recent efforts, I cleared the kitchen, and some time (with the wife) to make my first rabbit terrine today.

Can I just say DAMN is it bloody hard. I've just spent over an hour forcing the farce and fat through a tamis. I must be doing something wrong. I pureed it as much as i dared - not wanting it to cook. Still - this makes the duck and foie tourte I made (which I'm making again next weekend) seem easy by comparison.

Anyway, I'll return here with my moaning, and hopefully a finished product.

[Lori in PA]

You can do it, MobyP! I spent MY day yesterday making cassoulet, no doubt partly inspired toward things French by Lucy's recent blog. Lucy, you have a lot to answer for...

[MobyP]

I'll post more pictures and descriptions later, but here is how the rabbit terrine came out. I was quite happy. The two circles in the centre are the fillets.

Edited by MobyP, 11 December 2005 - 07:13 AM.

[abadoozy]

I'm about to foray into my first attempt at making a terrine. I recently acquired a terrine mold - one of the ones that come apart - and a good recipe book, so I'm ready to go. My venison and fatback are marinating in the fridge, my bowls are sitting outside in a snowbank to keep 'em cold, and the only thing that's holding me up is the @#$#@ plastic wrap.

The technique I was planning to use involves lining my mold with plastic wrap, filling it, and baking in a water bath. At 3am last night, I woke up thinking "Plastic wrap? In the oven? Is that possible?"

A little research this morning on the Saran Wrap web site revealed that Saran Wrap is not meant to go into the oven.

So.... what to do? Is it just lawyer-speak, and can my festive blue Saran Wrap stand up to a 300 degree oven and water bath just fine? Or will I end up with a melted plastic shell around my lovely terrine?

Can I get heatproof plastic anywhere? I live in a small town, there is no Costco or other such large place. We do have a Gordon Food Service retail store, and I plan on calling them as soon as they open at noon to see if they carry the elusive heatproof plastic wrap.

If that route doesn't work, what are my options? I'm completely new to terrine making. Can I use several layers of tinfoil? Any technique that doesn't use a water bath?

For what it's worth, I'm doing it with about equal amounts of venison and pork fatback, pureed with various spices, a madeira reduction, and I think I add some egg whites and heavy cream.

[Mottmott]

I'm about to foray into my first attempt at making a terrine. I recently acquired a terrine mold - one of the ones that come apart - and a good recipe book, so I'm ready to go. My venison and fatback are marinating in the fridge, my bowls are sitting outside in a snowbank to keep 'em cold, and the only thing that's holding me up is the @#$#@ plastic wrap.
...
If that route doesn't work, what are my options? I'm completely new to terrine making. Can I use several layers of tinfoil? Any technique that doesn't use a water bath?

For what it's worth, I'm doing it with about equal amounts of venison and pork fatback, pureed with various spices, a madeira reduction, and I think I add some egg whites and heavy cream.

I would think you can do the same thing people who make cheesecakes in a waterbath do. Double wrap the outside of the mold with foil, preferably heavy duty.

And save me a slice.

[Blondelle]

In the little booklet that comes with the Le Creuset terrine they recommend greasing the terrine, and then lining it with baking parchment cut to size on the bottom and sides. Would bacon go with your recipe? There is another recipe there where you line the bottom and sides with strips of bacon before filling.

I'm about to foray into my first attempt at making a terrine. I recently acquired a terrine mold - one of the ones that come apart - and a good recipe book, so I'm ready to go. My venison and fatback are marinating in the fridge, my bowls are sitting outside in a snowbank to keep 'em cold, and the only thing that's holding me up is the @#$#@ plastic wrap.

The technique I was planning to use involves lining my mold with plastic wrap, filling it, and baking in a water bath. At 3am last night, I woke up thinking "Plastic wrap? In the oven? Is that possible?"

A little research this morning on the Saran Wrap web site revealed that Saran Wrap is not meant to go into the oven.

So.... what to do? Is it just lawyer-speak, and can my festive blue Saran Wrap stand up to a 300 degree oven and water bath just fine? Or will I end up with a melted plastic shell around my lovely terrine?

Can I get heatproof plastic anywhere? I live in a small town, there is no Costco or other such large place. We do have a Gordon Food Service retail store, and I plan on calling them as soon as they open at noon to see if they carry the elusive heatproof plastic wrap.

If that route doesn't work, what are my options? I'm completely new to terrine making. Can I use several layers of tinfoil? Any technique that doesn't use a water bath?

For what it's worth, I'm doing it with about equal amounts of venison and pork fatback, pureed with various spices, a madeira reduction, and I think I add some egg whites and heavy cream.

[abadoozy]

I think bacon goes with everything, but it wouldn't solve my problem. Unlike the Le Crueset terrine, mine isn't solid. It's like the one pictured a few posts up - it comes apart, and is not waterproof. If you pour water into it, it comes right out the sides. And last I checked, bacon, though delicious, wasn't much of a water barrier either.

I ended up taking Mottmott's advice and using tin foil (I've done cheesecakes like this before.) It's in the oven now. Cross your fingers and hope it comes out - if not, my father is going to be very unhappy that I ruined some of the venison from the first deer he killed in 9 years!

Just curious, though - what have others used for the plastic wrap? I did call GFS and they'd never heard of heatproof plastic wrap. Is it commonly available out in the real world? Or are the Saran guys lying, and Saran wrap heats just fine?

Edited by abadoozy, 11 December 2005 - 10:51 AM.

[Mottmott]

I think bacon goes with everything, but it wouldn't solve my problem. Unlike the Le Crueset terrine, mine isn't solid. It's like the one pictured a few posts up - it comes apart, and is not waterproof. If you pour water into it, it comes right out the sides. And last I checked, bacon, though delicious, wasn't much of a water barrier either.

I ended up taking Mottmott's advice and using tin foil (I've done cheesecakes like this before.) It's in the oven now. Cross your fingers and hope it comes out - if not, my father is going to be very unhappy that I ruined some of the venison from the first deer he killed in 9 years!

Just curious, though - what have others used for the plastic wrap? I did call GFS and they'd never heard of heatproof plastic wrap. Is it commonly available out in the real world? Or are the Saran guys lying, and Saran wrap heats just fine?

Lordy,fingers crossed.

It's not the season in the northeast, but I have made a veggie terrine a few times using a recipe I saw on TV, mostly just layered roasted peppers, and grilled zucchini and eggplant layered and pressed, then served with a pepper sauce. It was very tasty and colorful, but only the pressing held it together, so it did tend to fall apart a bit. I think if I were doing it for a party, I'd line the terrine with chard leaves to form a shell for it. I also tried a vegetable terrine in Daniel Boulud's first cookbook and have never been tempted to do it again.

[MobyP]

Good luck with the venison. I ended up doing a smaller version of the terrine using cling film in multiple layers - which is a trick from an English chef. I'll unmold it tomorrow and let you know what happened.



This was really a bugger to do. It felt more ike pastry than cooking. Next time I'm going to take half an hour to really sharpen my food processor blade. Spending all of that time trying to get the rabbit farce through the tamis was a nightmare. Also, the butcher refused to slice the back fat for me, so I had to cut it by hand, which was a pain in the arse. In the end I was in a rush to leave the house, so had no elaborate garnishes prepared. Still, it made for a good lunch.