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Laboratory Water Baths / Immersion Circulators


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#91 derekslager

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 12:32 PM

Based on the advice in this thread, I purchased a new water bath on eBay for cooking sous vide. It's an enclosed circulating bath, as advised for minimizing water loss with long cooking times.

The particular model I purchased has a 13L tank (about 3.5 gallons), just above nathanm's 10L recommendation. This ends up being a very nice size for home use, but would probably be too small for turning out restaurant quantities of food. Even being on the lower end of the capacity range, it takes quite some time (30-60 minutes) to reach temperature. A larger bath would likely take even longer, and its additional capacity would rarely be taken advantage of in my kitchen.

This is a mid-range digital model, with a two line display showing the target temperature alongside the current temperature. Unit conversions and various other settings are accessible via the buttons on the front panel. An RS-232 control port enables more sophisticated programming and/or monitoring. More useful in a lab setting than in a kitchen, but nice to have nonetheless.

Here's a photo of the unit heating up with the lid removed:

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The unit consists of two major pieces, connected with four screws. To get a good look at the heating element / pump, you need to take it apart. Here are some pictures of the individual pieces:

Bath:
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"Guts", side view:
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"Guts", bottom view:
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The heating unit hovers in the bath directly, so you end up with less capacity than the photo of the empty container would suggest. There is, however, enough clearance under the element to place food (for example, you could line the entire bottom of the bath container with eggs).

The "guts" don't look much different from an immersion style circulator. In fact, this could probably be used as an immersion circulator by positioning the top portion of the unit in a large hotel pan. I probably won't need that much capacity in my home kitchen, but it's certainly a nice option to have.

Overall, I would recommend a unit of this style for home use. It's reasonably compact (just a bit bigger than a rice cooker or deep fryer designed for home use), and it doesn't make a ton of noise (a low-to-moderate amount of vibration noise depending on its surface, and a rather pleasant babbling brook sound as the water circulates). The sous vide cooking process is so "hands off" that you could keep it in a bedroom closet if you were short on space.

These do tend to be a bit more expensive than immersion style units (the unit shown here retails for $2,600), but with some patience you can find one on eBay without breaking the bank. Mine was new (with some relatively minor cosmetic damage), and I paid less than $400 for it.

#92 bigcat39

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 07:01 AM

I work on laboratory equipment for a livivng, I second the reccomendation for the above unit. Durable, and fairly cheap to fix, the control and display boards together were ~$400. Very accurate, the display is within 0.04 deg. C, stability better than 0.009 C (standard deviation over 4 hours)

#93 zEli173

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Posted 20 February 2008 - 10:50 PM

Does anyone know if the heater/circulator portion of circulating baths is typically removable so it can be used like a stand alone immersion circulator? Obviously there are different types of baths, but I'm talking about the kind that basically look like the immersion circulator is self contained, like the one derekslager just bought.

It seems like some of the enclosed baths are going for for less on ebay than the immersion circulators. But living in a small Manhattan apartment, an immersion circulator is a more attractive option.

Fast response would be appreciated.

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#94 TheSwede

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 03:07 AM

I think they are almost always removable. You will have to find a way of fastening the unit to a pot though, and the models with a shallow immersion part (like the one above) would need a very full pot.

#95 zEli173

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 11:36 AM

So if it's removable, should I expect that the power cord goes directly into the circulator/heater rather than somewhere within the bath. In other words, I want to completely discard the bath. Can I?

#96 sygyzy

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 11:42 AM

So if it's removable, should I expect that the power cord goes directly into the circulator/heater rather than somewhere within the bath.  In other words, I want to completely discard the bath.  Can I?

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Yes

#97 zEli173

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:09 PM

Thanks!

#98 Chefb28

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 11:08 PM

I'm curious to know where I can find a Thermo- Imersion circulator for a decent price, the ones that I find on the internet are around $9000.00 and I really don't have that kind of change. So if any one could help that would be great!


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#99 Tri2Cook

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 09:22 AM

Search it on google and almost every result will have them for less than $9000.00 so it depends what you consider a "decent price". Even the polyscience stuff (which is not the least expensive you can find) is much less expensive than that. Are you sure you didn't mean $900.00?

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#100 slkinsey

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 10:10 AM

eBay.
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#101 Chefb28

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 07:18 PM

Search it on google and almost every result will have them for less than $9000.00 so it depends what you consider a "decent price". Even the polyscience stuff (which is not the least expensive you can find) is much less expensive than that. Are you sure you didn't mean $900.00?

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They were probably not that high, but I thaught I saw one around $6000.00, but I'm probably mistaken. Thanks for the info.
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#102 HKDave

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 07:38 PM

Here's a link to PolyScience, arguably the most popular immersion circulators... you're looking at $900 - 2000 there.
http://www.cuisinete...irculators.html
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#103 mkayahara

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 01:36 PM

So it looks like PolyScience has added a new immersion circulator product to their lineup, the SousVide Professional. It looks very sleek and, at $800, seems reasonably priced. I assume they were showcasing it at the NRA show; has anyone had a chance to see it in action?
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#104 jk1002

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 04:56 PM

Dave Arnold left a comment in the cookingissues.com forum.

Besides the obvious design change and the smaller size the Pid algorithm was optimized.

That was something that with the older Polyscience was a bit annoying, to stabilize the last few tenth of a degree always took a few minutes to avoid overshoot. Now it heats up to target quicker but may overshot by 2 or 3 tenth of a degree for a few minutes.

I haven't seen it but am mostly intrigued by the smaller size. I want to know if i can stick it into a smaller soup pot, preferable 4 qt or so but think it still might be to big for that.

#105 Okanagancook

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 12:26 PM

I have a new Polyscience Sous Vide immersion circulator 7306 model and it has been working well until now. When I depress and turn the 'select/set knob" to change temperature I get this messsage in the display "LLO". This message is not listed in the manual nor on their website. Anyone run across this? I have tried everything I can think of.

#106 Okanagancook

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 07:03 AM

It finally started working again. Don't know what happened. I emailed Polyscience with the problem so we'll see what kind of response I get.

#107 Okanagancook

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 02:17 PM

After my email to PolyScience, someone phoned to tell us that the "LLO" is short for "local lock out" and it is a safety feature of the machine. If you hold the selector knob in for 15 second it locks the dial so it can't be moved. To remove the lock simply hold the knob in for another 15 seconds. The PolyScience person was very nice and noted that in the manual it is documented in section 5.9.....We didn't see it while we were searching. I was very impressed with the service. My husband was trying to set the temperature for the first time and he must have held the knob in longer that I have done in the past.

Our pork loin chops turned out so very good.....currently trying some of D. Baldwin's recipes from his new book. The cabbage/onion/apple saute that went with the pork was perfect.

#108 ScoopKW

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 06:53 AM

One comment about the original five-year old post.

The OP said mineralized water can leave scale build-up on the heating element. OP suggests using softened water.

I don't see what good that will do, because softened water is just tap water with salt added. Softened water would be worse on lab equipment than unsoftened. Use RO or bottled water instead. Distilled water would be ideal (and that's what the labs use), but RO and bottled are almost as good, and don't require home distilling equipment. (Although home distilling equipment can be FUN* if you know what you're doing.)

* And very illegal.
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