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An Ideal Negroni


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#241 lesliec

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 06:22 PM

If the Campari and dry vermouth are at hand, you're a bottle of rye whiskey away from an Old Pal, or a bottle of tequila away from a Jalisco Stroll, either of which is worth trying.

Sticking with gin/Campari combinations, if you could find St. Germain you could make a Bitter Elder, or with Cointreau a Robert Hess Jasmine. If you like grapefruity flavors you'll likely enjoy either of those.

But you might just keep tinkering with the Negroni too. Are there vermouths one shelf up from what you have that might be worth trying out?

 

... or a bottle of Suze away from a White Negroni (with the dry vermouth).


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#242 weinoo

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 10:16 PM

Phil Ward's Cornwall Negroni: A really excellent drink, heavier on the gin to make up for a little lighter on the modifiers, but it works just fine. The sweet vermouth in this version was most likely M & R or Antica, its sweetness tamed by not being an ounce.

 

Created by Phillip Ward, Pegu Club, New York, 2005.

 

2 ounces Beefeater gin

1/2 ounce Campari

1/2 ounce Punt e Mes

1/2 ounce sweet vermouth

2 dashes orange bitters

1 orange twist, as garnish

Stir and strain into a chilled cocktail glass.  Add the garnish.


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#243 lindag

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 06:26 AM

"Sticking with gin/Campari combinations, if you could find St. Germain you could make a Bitter Elder, or with Cointreau a Robert Hess Jasmine. If you like grapefruity flavors you'll likely enjoy either of those."

 

Craig, Thank you.  I LOVE grapefruit but can't have it because of bp medications so the Robert Hess sounds perfect for me.

 

The mixer section of my local liquor store is SO SMALL I have no hope of finding anything like Punt e Mes or Frenet  (sp?) or anything at all out of the ordinary.  But I do have a large collection of liquor and I like branching out with new drinks.

I'll look for elderflower next time I stop in but can't get my hopes up.


Edited by lindag, 21 May 2015 - 06:28 AM.


#244 paulraphael

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:03 AM

I've heard that some people go 1/2 and 1/2 with sweet and dry vermouth.

 

Before I found a good replacement for M&R, I made a few drinks with half M&R and half dolin vermouth blanc (which was in the fridge left over from something or other). I don't know anything about vermouth blanc but it tastes pretty good. The resulting Negroni was fine if a bit pale looking and mild.

 

And apropos of nothing, last week I had my first boulevardier, made with makers. That's a nice drink ... maybe should have its own thread.



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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:06 AM

And apropos of nothing, last week I had my first boulevardier, made with makers. That's a nice drink ... maybe should have its own thread.

An excellent cocktail, in that family of Old Pal, 1794, New Friend, etc.


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#246 FrogPrincesse

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 10:03 AM

And apropos of nothing, last week I had my first boulevardier, made with makers. That's a nice drink ... maybe should have its own thread.

It already does. ;)


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#247 brinza

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 10:37 AM

I've been drinking a lot of Brown Bombers lately.  (from the PDT Cocktail book)

 

2 oz George Dickel Tenessee whiskey (I've just been using bourbon, however)

0.75 oz Lillet

0.5 oz Suze

 

A good example of a drink where the sum is more than its parts, and the key to this one is in the ratios.  Everything is in perfect harmony.


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#248 EvergreenDan

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 12:33 PM

"Sticking with gin/Campari combinations, if you could find St. Germain you could make a Bitter Elder, or with Cointreau a Robert Hess Jasmine. If you like grapefruity flavors you'll likely enjoy either of those."

 

Craig, Thank you.  I LOVE grapefruit but can't have it because of bp medications so the Robert Hess sounds perfect for me.

 

The mixer section of my local liquor store is SO SMALL I have no hope of finding anything like Punt e Mes or Frenet  (sp?) or anything at all out of the ordinary.  But I do have a large collection of liquor and I like branching out with new drinks.

I'll look for elderflower next time I stop in but can't get my hopes up.

Neither drink actually has grapefruit in it.

 

There are a number of elderflower liqueurs on the market now. It was all the rage, then was overused and fell out of favor, but now is seeing a little comeback I think. It is still a great flavor if you weren't overexposed to it. It is not floral at all -- more like lychee.


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#249 paulraphael

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 07:39 AM

Here are some standard variations I dug up:

 

Camparinette: 1oz gin, 3/4 oz Campari, 3/4oz sweet vermouth (similar to the gin-heavy versions we've been talking about)
Negroni Sbagliato: replace vermouth with prosecco
Boulevardier: replace gin with bourbon (predates 1st known negroni) 
Old Pal: rye, dry vermouth, campari (predates 1st known negroni) 
Kingston Negroni / Man About Town: replace gin with Jamaican rum
Agavoni: replace gin with Tequila Blanca
Negroski: replace gin with vodka (emergencies only)



#250 mhdousa

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Posted Yesterday, 05:15 PM

Just finished off my bottle of gin and wondering what I should get next. What are folks' preferred gins for a negroni? I've used Beefeater (great), Citadelle (ok), Half Moon Orchard (ok).



#251 FrogPrincesse

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Posted Yesterday, 08:33 PM

I like Beefeater, Tanqueray or Junipero for more juniper, and St. George dry rye gin for a more unusual savory take on the Negroni.

#252 ChrisTaylor

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Posted Yesterday, 09:46 PM

Nothing wrong with Tanqueray in a Negroni. Though I tend to have a bottle of top shelf gin on hand I rarely use them in a Negroni. I mean, it's not like Punt e Mes and Campari are best friends forever with subtle flavours.

 

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I wouldn't suggest it as a go-to, 'everyday' base for a Negroni but St George's rye gin makes for an interesting Negroni. I like genever, too, although last time I mentioned that it was clear I was almost on my own with that one.


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#253 paulraphael

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Posted Yesterday, 10:49 PM

Plymouth is pretty nice. I've only tried with a few different gins.



#254 EvergreenDan

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Posted Today, 03:59 AM

I has probably already been mentioned, but Ransom Old Tom makes a really fun, different and delicious Negroni. It's not a universal gin at all because of the strong spice profile -- lots of coriander. 


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