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#91 scamhi

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:41 PM

wow, even ratios? That and Meyer lemon explains your sweetness!

remade one tonight with 

2oz Pierre Ferrand Ambre Cognac

1.25oz Luxardo triplum

1 oz meyer lemon juice

 

mmmm good



#92 JoNorvelleWalker

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 09:27 PM

2 oz Pierre Ferrand 1840

3/4 oz Cointreau

7/8 oz lemon juice (don't ask)

 

 

Not bad, but I think I still like 1/2 oz Cointreau the best.



#93 Hassouni

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 09:34 PM

I don't make many sidecars, but taking the BarSmarts course and browsing through Essential Cocktails by DeGroff, I thought I'd make a classic tonight.

 

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I noticed that both Regan and Bartender's Choice both have the same ratio for a Sidecar (3:2:1) so I thought I'd give it a go

 

1.5 oz Ferrand 1840

1 oz Cointreau (seems a bit insane!)

.5 oz lemon

 

Sugared rim, being a traditionalist and all...

 

To my surprise, sugared rim aside, it is not a particularly sweet drink. I guess Cointreau is not nearly as sweet as simple syrup, and there is a distinct tart, even bitter quality from the lemon. Overall pretty good, though I think a 8:3:3 ratio might give it the kick that this lacks.



#94 EvergreenDan

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:51 AM

May I suggest a lighter touch on the sugar, and rimming just half the glass?


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#95 Hassouni

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 06:47 AM

Yes, you certainly may



#96 CalumC

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 02:13 PM

I don't make many sidecars, but taking the BarSmarts course and browsing through Essential Cocktails by DeGroff, I thought I'd make a classic tonight.
 
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I noticed that both Regan and Bartender's Choice both have the same ratio for a Sidecar (3:2:1) so I thought I'd give it a go
 
1.5 oz Ferrand 1840
1 oz Cointreau (seems a bit insane!)
.5 oz lemon
 
Sugared rim, being a traditionalist and all...
 
To my surprise, sugared rim aside, it is not a particularly sweet drink. I guess Cointreau is not nearly as sweet as simple syrup, and there is a distinct tart, even bitter quality from the lemon. Overall pretty good, though I think a 8:3:3 ratio might give it the kick that this lacks.


Also worth remembering Cointreau is 40% abv so you may also find the bitterness emphasised by that in some way, though more likely it's the bitter orange peel. Usually I'll cut down on the Cointreau a little and compensate for sweetness with a small dash of gomme. Works doubly well if there's some orange blossom water in the syrup.

#97 brinza

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 09:55 AM

I thought the sugared rim was only for the Brandy Crusta and not the Sidecar.


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#98 Hassouni

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 09:58 AM

Nah, sidecar too

#99 JoNorvelleWalker

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:17 PM

 

"FrogPrincesse: encouraging you to drink not so responsibly"

 

:biggrin:

 

 

Well, with lemons in house I finally tried an outrigger:

 

2 oz Appleton 12 (since my dealer is now stocking it)

3/4 oz Cointreau

1/2 oz lemon juice

 

 

Not bad at all but I should try Berry's origninal formulation before I make up my mind.



#100 JoNorvelleWalker

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:49 PM

OK, now for Berry's proportions:

 

2 oz Pusser's (Berry calls out Barbados rum)

1 oz Cointreau

1 oz lemon juice

 

 

Pusser's may or may not have been exactly what Berry had in mind but Pusser's is the only Barbados rum I currently have on the shelf.  Too much Cointreau here in my opinion.  But if someone offered me one I would not complain too much.



#101 Hassouni

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:36 PM

Despite what it says on the bottle, Pusser's is most definitely NOT a Barbados rum (see here http://rumproject.co...opic.php?t=1090).  Pusser's is much more intense than any Barbados rum, which tend to be dry, balanced, and even delicate in a way Pusser's, with its pot stilled Demerara grooviness, is not. 

 

Mt Gay Eclipse is a decent cocktail rum when Barbados is called for, but with unlimited budget, try Mt Gay 1703


Edited by Hassouni, 28 May 2014 - 04:36 PM.

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