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[cabrales]

I would be interested in recent visits made by members to Pho Hoang on Main Street.  The food appears to me to have deterioriated -- including the spicy version of the soup for the beef noodles.  Do other members have data points?  :)

[Fat Guy]

I'll vouch for Phnom Penh, with branches on West Broadway and East Pender. Not sure if that constitutes a data point, though. I have a friend in Vancouver who really knows this stuff, though. I'll see if I can cajole him into posting something about this.

[cabrales]

Pho Hoang has deteriorated somewhat relative to earlier visits, although I still consider it one of the better Vietnamese restaurants in Vancouver for "pho".

I had the noodle soup with beef balls and rare beef. The spicy version of the soup base for this dish was ordered. Sadly, instead of the nicely complex rendition of the spicy soup I remember, the soup sampled had undue sugar-based connotations. I liked the mixture of coriander, onion, parsley, etc. that was served with the soup, and the elastic texture of the beef balls.  

[cabrales]

I'd appreciate members' input on Pho Hoang or other pho restaurants in Vancouver.

[Coop]

I have recently come off a Pho and Bah Mi binge. I love the food and the low budget operations that seem to be on every block here in Vancouver. For me the best can be found at Kim Phong (formerly Hoong Giong) on Victoria Drive.

This spot has recently changed hands and gone through some typical restaurant growing pains. however they still offer the best bowl of soup in town. The one I recomend is the spicy beef and pork with vermicelli. It is a bit unusual but authentic. Watch out though after you become a regular they start putting more and more unusual ingredients in you soup. My last visit netted me two squares of Pork Blood. I'm afraid that is about one mile south of where I draw the line. I managed to get one down. It had the same flavour as you get when you cut your finger and lick the blood. Yuk. I digress from the original point. All the Phos here are the best I have had.

[cabrales]

Coop -- Thank-you Have you tried Pho Hoang (spicy broth for pho, which has to be requested, can be slightly erratic)?

[Coop]

I shall seek it out (both the restaurant nad the broth). I plan to have Pho only once this week . I have to limit myself so my Pho addiction can be controlled.

[cabrales]

Coop -- I'll go shortly, and will report. You might wish to wait, in case there has been further deterioration.

[Coop]

Cabrales: Way to take one for the team!

[Coop]

Went to Pho Hoang today had the Pho with Rare Beef, Brisket and Tripe. This was my first visit to this place and all I can say is "not good". The broth was salty and dull. I began to think Knorr, oh no. However on my way out I looked in the kitchen and saw a pot with what looked like beef broth on the simmer so maybe it is authentic. If Denny's did Pho this would be the place. I would not recomend this place when there are so many better in the East Vancouver area like Kim Phong, Au petit Cafe, Dakao or Pho Thyng.

[cabrales]

Coop -- Did you order the spicy broth, which has to be specifically requested?

I had a small-sized raw/rare beef pho at Pho Hoang recently. The item is Item #1 on the pho menu. The spicy broth (this has to be requested specifically, to a dining room team member that, in my case, had limited English skills) was good, although I have had it on other occasions when it was average. Small pho around $5; large around 6.50, depending on the variety.

Edited by cabrales, 18 February 2003 - 11:20 AM.

[Johnathon]

The Pho Hoang on Main Street is a few blocks from both my studio and my home so I have found it's pho to be always available and very inconsistent. When it is good, it rocks. When it is less than good, it sucks. Fortunately it is better than worse for the most part.

Part great pho, part convenience for me. I still go back and find that the spicey broth with rare beef is a must and definitely insist on fresh thai basil with the dish.

Cabrales and Coop, care to join me for pho at the Hoang one day to compare the experience? Feel free to PM me on this one.

[Legitimate Beef]

I've never been to Pho Hoang before, but my personal favourite for Pho is Pho Lan on three road and Granville in Richmond. Out of the numerous Pho restaurants in the Lower Mainland that I've had the opportunity to try I find it has the tastiest soup, as well as the best meats.

One of these days I'll get my lazy butt over to Pho Hoang so that I can make a comparison

[Ling]

Agreed. Pho Lan in Richmond is definitely notches above Pho Hoang. :)

[Coop]

I have been back to Pho Hoang lately and found the pho to be a slight improvment. As for asking for something off the menu, I'm not up toasking the miserable women that work there for anything other then what's on the menu. Here is my list of great Vietnamese places:

1. Kim Phung, great Pho and friendly staff.

2. Le Do, Best all round Vietnamese, good pho, great Bahn Mi etc.

3. Pho Thy, best Bahn mi, best Curry, kind of an old school place, dumpy.

4. Au Petit Cafe, very good all round, busiest place in town.

[edm]

coop : could you give the adresses of those pho places. I'm very fond of vietnamese cuisine and i'd love to try out these restaurants.

Edited by edm, 11 October 2003 - 11:03 AM.

[edm]

Just tried Kim Phung, on Victoria drive just off 41st St.
Really nice little vietnamese place. Very busy yet smiling and inviting service,
small, cosy, down to earth atmosphere. It feels they just genuinely wanna warm you up with a good bowl of soup, and yep... that feeling is great !
Coming from France, where opportunities for unexpensive, unprententious and good value food are abundant, i was certainly happy to discover Kim Phung.
Reminded me of these little authentic places i used to go to in Paris' chinatown.
Had the rare beef vermicelli soup and the shrimp and meat rolls. Nicely flavoured stock, deep and rich, not fat, with hints of lemongrass, coriander and just enough garlic and onions. Decent beef, properly cooked + all the usual fixings, basil, soya...
Pretty good rolls with a traditional peanut dipping sauce.
At 5 bucks the small soup (and small is big enough !), this place is a valuable asset for Vancouver. We need more restaurants like this that offer such simple tasty food and such a great value for money.
Thanks for sharing your adresses, coop !

Edited by edm, 11 October 2003 - 03:47 PM.

[Coop]

edm: They always make me feel warm and satisfied at Kim Phung. I'm glad you had the same experience. Have you tried Kintaro for Ramen? It is on Denman street on the east side of the street two doors north of Robson. It's a little more expensive (7.50) for a huge bowl of Ramen, but well worth the visit.

[Derek Diggler]

Shao Lin noodle house, 1/2 block west of cambie on broadway. south side. Damn fine soup and noodles.

[jmc8y]

Shao Lin noodle house, 1/2 block west of cambie on broadway. south side. Damn fine soup and noodles.

this thread is a little dated, but I was hoping for some pho reccomendations. I have a pho passion, and I just moved from northern virginia where pho shops are a dime a dozen and they are amazing.

I'm living on the UBC campus so places close to there are preferred. But I will travel great distances for great pho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Coop]

At the risk of being called a shill for the place, the best Pho for me is at Kim Phung on Victoria between 42nd and 43rd. Also nice are Ben Do on Kingsway and Le Do on Hastings. Personally I think Pho Hoang is over rated.

[d.hawksworth]

Kim Phong

On Coop's recommendation I made it there today. Interesting place, I seemed to be the only one who used the front door. I had the rare beef with tendon and flank, spiced it up and proceeded to sniffle my through the meal. It was very good, actually seasoned. Have been to others in Chinatown with zero flavor. The mini temples in the room added a nice touch. Spent the afternoon reading about a small restaurant/café on commercial doing inconceivable trade on a Sunday. Knowing the after affects I’m sure this can only be a windfall for food based businesses in the immediate area.


D.Hawksworth

[Coop]

I understand that it's hard to keep the Doritos in stock.

[Daddy-A]

Kim Phong - On Coop's recommendation I made it there today. Interesting place, I seemed to be the only one who used the front door. I had the rare beef with tendon and flank, spiced it up and proceeded to sniffle my through the meal. It was very good, actually seasoned.

That's too funny ... I was there the same day also based on Coop's rec (don't let it go to your head ). I had the same Pho' as well as what I thought were Spring Rolls. They tasted strangely like pork ... though I'm not sure if it was pork in the roll or in the fat used to fry them. They were OK ... but the Pho' was awesome.

I too used the front door, and felt very conspicuous doing so.

Arne

[Jeffy Boy]

My personal favourite, which happens to be another of Coop's recommendations, is Pho Thy, on Victoria at 39th. The pho is excellent, and the spring rolls are superb. I think it's the spring rolls that keep me coming back.

I've also been curious to try a "Vietnamese sub", which I've seen at a number of places. What are they like?

[Keith Talent]

Sandwich of the God's.

When you die and finally meet your maker, don't be suprised to find banh mi crumbs in his beard. It makes one wonder how the hell Subway stays in business.

6 inch warm fragrant french roll, mayo, your choice of meat, marinated carrot strips, marinated cucumber, cilantro and hot peppers. Meat choices are meatball (same as in pho, slightly rubbery, but good) ham, grilled pork or lemon grass chicken.

You're in Richmond, Jeff?

Saigon Star at the corner of Park and Cooney is excellent, but my new find is a tiny little hole in the wall. At Cook and #3 in the mall with the Staples beside Bob's Submarines. Don't know what it's called, but you can't miss it. Four tables, caters mostly to takeout crowd, four sandwiches for TEN FREAKIN' DOLLARS. It's insane. The mayo is different here, it looks like, well there's no other way to put it but the mayo looks like mud. I have no idea what's inside, maybe dried ground fermented fish? Anyway, it has that heavy umani hit you get from fish sauce, but is not fishy. I also had the Cambodian style pho there, which I'd never had before. It was very good, but new styles of soup seem somewhat extraneous when pho is also available.

And someone in this town could probably make a good sum of money starting a westernised, upscale in appearance chain of banh mi stands in office buildings etc.

[Jeffy Boy]

Sandwich of the God's.

Wow! That sounds pretty good, Keith! Yup, I work in Richmond, so I've noted the two places you mention and will give one of them a try real soon. Thanks!

And someone in this town could probably make a good sum of money starting a westernised, upscale in appearance chain of banh mi stands in office buildings etc.

And I'm sure Don Cherry would make a great spokesman. I can't think of the Vietnamese equivalent of "Toasted Tastes Better!", but it would certainly give him a whole new set of words to butcher.

[Coop]

Actually most bahn mi are toasted, after they are wrapped in paper and tied together by an elastic band. The mayo at Le Do is very wierd. Try not to look at it while you are eating. If you are already at Pho Thy thier subs are pretty good.

[Jeffy Boy]

Actually most bahn mi are toasted, after they are wrapped in paper and tied together by an elastic band. The mayo at Le Do is very wierd. Try not to look at it while you are eating. If you are already at Pho Thy thier subs are pretty good.

I saw the sign at Pho Thy - "Vietnamese sub - $2.50". I thought "what the hell kind of sub can you get for $2.50?" Maybe more than I think...

OK, I can now hear in my head Don Cherry bellowing "Ba-hani my eye! Beauty!!"

[jmc8y]

I saw the sign at Pho Thy - "Vietnamese sub - $2.50".  I thought "what the hell kind of sub can you get for $2.50?"  Maybe more than I think...

OK, I can now hear in my head Don Cherry bellowing "Ba-hani my eye!  Beauty!!"

thanks for the advice guys. looks like i will be going to kim phong!