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#61 jrufusj

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 04:43 AM

Muffin 210:

Copied below is a piece I wrote for another group after my first brief visits to Japan about three years ago. One of my favorite places in the world to eat sushi is Sushi Iwa in Kyoto, which is referenced in the piece.

(I have done very limited editing to correct a few misspellings and awkward phrasings, but have let the green, eager, gawking tone stay.)

Enjoy your visit to Kansai. Kyoto truly is heaven on earth and I hear Nara is even better.

Jim

Last night I had the pleasure, for the second time, of spending an evening in a sushi shop in Kyoto.  I live in Bangkok but spend a fair amount of time in Seoul, which is a mere two hour flight from Osaka.  From there, it is only an hour by JR Haruka express to Kyoto, one of the most beautiful urban spots on earth.  How, then, can I resist taking monthly weekends in Kyoto?

On my first trip, I had only about 24 hours in town and arrived at the hotel after the concierge desk had closed.  Knowing absolutely nothing about Kyoto, I resigned myself to eating in the sushi shop of the Granvia Kyoto.  To my pleasant surprise, the food was a revelation. 

I've been eating sushi weekly for nigh on fifteen years, including some authentic and memorable meals in Washington, DC, Los Angeles, and San Francisco.  Still, as good as those meals were, they were as far from my first meal in Kyoto as they were from some of my more misguided attempts to find a sushi fix in various small towns in the US.

What was it that was so different?  Surprisingly enough, it was not the neta but the shari that was such a revelation.  Sure, there were elements of the toppings that were radically different from what we see in the States (or Asia ex-Japan, at least in my experience).  But what really set the sushi apart was the exquisite flavor of the rice.

The immediate and lasting impression is one of sweetness, but a sweetness completely different from the cloying flavor that we Americans are so attached to in much of our food.  I remarked to someone several hours after that meal that I could still taste the rice when I licked my lips.

Yesterday, I managed to arrive in Kyoto a little after noon and get a recommendation from the concierge.  She sent me to a small (aren't they all?) shop called Sushi-Iwa that is located cater-cornered from the Kikoku-tei Gardens.  The proprietor there, in addition to being friendly and chatty, speaks English like a native speaker.  Given that my Japanese is limited to a pretty good food vocabulary and the basics required for politeness, it provided an unexpected opportunity to talk about sushi.  When I mentioned my reaction to the rice, he explained that the western portions of Japan, of which Kyoto is a part, have a
style of shari that is sweeter than that preferred in the eastern portions, which include Tokyo.  In addition, the itamae in Japan have spent years learning the most basic elements of their art, years that seem to lend a certain texture, flavor and consistency to their rice.  What a welcome find after one and a half years eating flavorless Korean and highly variable (and long-grain) Thai sushi rice.

I am curious, those of you who know much more about Japan, its culture, and its food -- how doesthis fit with your experience, in terms of both quality versus the US and seasoning versus eastern Japan?  What other regional quirks should I be aware of and seek out?

Top notch sushi isn't cheap in Japan, but I believe that's true anywhere.  You don't always get what you pay for, but you never get what you don't pay for.  For those of you who are interested, here are the menus and tabs:

Granvia Kyoto -- Total = 13,300 yen

2 beers (small bottle)    1,500
2 pieces Akami              800
2 pieces Hirame          1,200
2 pieces Aji          uncharged
2 pieces Katzunoko        1,200
2 pieces Engawa          1,200
2 pieces Kaibashira        800
2 pieces Saba              800
2 pieces Ootoro          2,400 (ouch)
2 pieces Uni              1,600
Tax and Service Charge    1,832

The highlights were ootoro (so rich it was on the white side of pink and as pleasantly unctious as ankimo) and engawa (served plain, not with the ponzu that normally tops it in the States).  I was surprised that the engawa was the same price as the ordinary hirame.  In the States, I have always been charged a premium for engawa.

I know I made a pig of myself but, revelation that the meal was, I just couldn't make myslf stop.


Sushi-Iwa  --  Total = 9,500 yen

2 beers (large bottle)
2 pieces Hamachi
2 pieces Akami
2 pieces Iwashi
2 pieces Tako
1 piece Chuutoro
1 piece Kazunoko
1 piece Karuma-ebi
1 Natto-maki

I couldn't really list highlights here.  The akami and chuutoro were both cut from hon-maguro from the Sea of Japan and the chuutoro was as rich as anything I've been served as ootoro outside Japan.  The iwashi had a freshness and a slight brininess that reminded me directly of the sea in a way somewhat similar to the best uni.  The tako was unlike any octopus I've ever had before and better than any except maybe nakji bokkum in Seoul.  The karuma-ebi were served odori and
were as sweet as most ama-ebi I've tasted.  The head was roasted robatoyaki-style rather than fried, and reminded me of sucking crawfish heads in Louisiana, except that they were roasted not boiled.  The natto was more flavorful and no more odorous than any in the States.  (The itamae said he likes natto and gets enough Tokyo customers that it's worth stocking it, even though most locals don't
eat it.)

Like many small sushi shops, Sushi-Iwa doesn't present an itemized bill, just a total.  Although my Thai friends who scrutinize every item on every bill would be horrified, that doesn't bother me.  Anyone who has enough pride and enough concern for his customers to get the best, freshest fish isn't going to risk it all just to pad bills.  I suspect they may be adjusted down for a regular, but not up for a
stranger.  While I enjoyed my first meal (at the Granvia), the entire meal at Sushi-Iwa was a highlight film.

Other impressions:

-  I was surprised at the size of the neta at both meals.  They were much larger than I had expected, but, given the more flavorful shari, each piece was still in balance.  Question for our experts -- Is neta size a regional thing?  Even though the Granvia shop bills itself as Edo-style, the flavour of the shari and general proportions were the same as at Sushi-Iwa.  (Perhaps Edo-style just means they focus on nigiri-zushi and not battera-, oshi-, chirashi-zushi, or some other regional specialty.)

-  I have had fresh wasabi a number of times in the US, but I was reminded again how much better it is than the ubiquitous green powder -- much more mouth presence, rather than being 99% in the nose.  It seemed even better in Japan, but I don't know if that's because of Japanese mountain streams or if I imagined it because I wanted it to be better.  (Please understand that I am a Matt Kramer devotee and a terroiriste of the first order about all things to do with food and
wine.)

-  Anyone who is self-conscious about sushi etiquette should not be.  A group of Japanese men near me at the counter were fairly sousing their nigiri with murasaki, almost to the point of disintegration.  There are plenty of good reasons not to do that -- taste being the most important -- but don't ever be intimidated about what to do if there's no chopstick rest or whether you've got goma in your teeth.  Many Japanese don't have any more of a clue than we do.  Just be
polite and pay attention to what you're eating and why it has the taste and texture it does.  If you understand and respect the food you eat and the people who make and serve it, you'll seldom do anything too grossly wrong.

-  The Japanese are just as curious about what we have done with their food as we gaijin are about what the real thing tastes like.  One customer enthusiatically asked me what was in this Tiger Woods roll she heard had heard about and I was rather pleased to be able to answer honestly that I had no idea.  That drew a smile from itamae-san but disappionted looks from two thirty-something Japanese women seated next to me at the counter.

That's it for now and I'm eager to hear other peoples' reactions to their first visit to a sushi shop in Japan. 

Take care,

Jim


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#62 Muffin210

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 03:24 PM

Well, Houseberg and I are leaving for KIX on Saturday morning...we'll arrive just in time for the latest Osakan typhoon, I'm sure!

I have been reading this thread: http://forums.egulle...?showtopic=5369 and have jotted down some of the suggestions for Osaka and Kyoto.

The only set plan we have so far is an okonomiyaki restaurant ("Chiba") in Osaka for lunch on Monday. (Too bad we missed "Okonomiyaki day"!)


Any last minute suggestions for us? We're spending a couple nights in Osaka, four nights in Kyoto, one night up on Koya-san, and one night maybe in Kobe or Nara.

Thanks!

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 03:32 PM

looks like you will be touching down right into the middle of typhoon #22......

sorry but I have no restaurant suggestions...

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#64 helenjp

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 07:34 AM

Osaka is always a good place to eat, you can't go wrong! Kyoto...I haven't been there so long that I can't say too much.

One thing to try in Osaka is "kushi-katsu" - Deep fried titbits of this and that served on skewers, usually lightly breaded in very fine crumbs. Hard to describe, but better than tempura in good hands. Think light and crunchy rather than doughy and greasy.

Kobe used to be a great place for Japanese-style western food like croquettes and tonkatsu, but I don't know if that's still the case.

One of my students told me today that the Umeda shopping area (in the northern end of central Osaka) is still lots of fun. The southern shopping area, centered on Namba, used to be much more down-market, though there is an excellent kitchen goods area nearby (you'd have to ask somebody whose been there more recently to give you accurate directions, though!9.

Have a good trip!

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 04:54 PM

http://www.japantime...v20040910a1.htm

just ran across this article talking aout avoiding the tourist traps in Kyoto, it was very interesting.

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#66 Muffin210

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 10:44 PM

Just got back from our 9 day trip to Kansai (Osaka, Koya-san, and Kyoto). Ate lots of great Japanese food, including okonomiyaki, yudofu, lots of matcha with sweets, and vegetarian temple meals. The highlight was probably the kaiseki meals we were served at the Kyoto ryokan.

I posted all the food/drink photos on our photo website, if anyone wants to see them: http://gallery.house...apanFoodOct2004

There was one dish we were served at the Buddhist temple with dinner that was a complete mystery to me -- it tasted and looked like it was made with a fig. I'd never seen or tasted anything like that before. Can anyone identify it? It's on page 5.

Even in just one short week, we were served several dishes featuring chestnuts and persimmons (since they are in season). I wish the restaurants in the US were as in tune with the seasonal offerings as the Japanese restaurants are!

Luckily, there was no natto in sight!

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 10:58 PM

Great pics. So jealous. *slobber*.
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Posted 21 October 2004 - 01:03 AM

I thoroughly enjoyed the photos. Thank you for sharing.
One question: Do you like vending machines? :biggrin:

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 02:35 AM

is the salted tempura noticably salty? were the veggies salted before hand or was the batter just saltier or both? (<a href="http://gallery.house..._3_324">ref</a>)

the candy displays are quite impressive.
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#70 torakris

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 03:50 AM

great pictures!

wish I could help with that mystery food, but I am stumped, it didn't look very appetizing though.... :blink:

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 03:56 AM

What was the name of the temple you ate at when you visited Koya, do you recall? I know there is Obaku-sect zen food in that area, but I thought it was only down towards Wakayama city, not in Koya itself.

I'll get out my temple cooking books, but it might BE a fig. Alternative guess...desalted umeboshi simmered in dashi and given some kind of treatment, or (maybe - but I wouldn't expect this till winter) a dried persimmon simmered in dashi, etc. Looks like it has an arrowroot coating or even a thin arrowroot dough around it????

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 06:34 AM

Muffin,

What is the Gourmet Museum in Osaka?

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 01:56 PM

Thanks for all the comments on the photos!

Akiko, the "Gourmet Museum" sign was just for a food/restaurant section in one of Osaka's many maze-like underground malls...I have no idea how people manage to navigate their way around some of those places -- but at least there is a lot of good food to eat!

Helenjp, the temple we stayed at was Shojoshin-in on Mount Koya. I guess it's a subtemple technically, but they prepared the meals for all of us. I loved the creamy tofu -- so different from the tofu I've eaten in the US -- but there was another, spongy tofu that must take some getting used to. The mystery dish did seem to contain a fig, but it wasn't just a fig, unless it was some sort of fig from hell. We would have sworn it was some sort of sea creature innards if it weren't for the fact that the meals were strictly vegetarian!

melonpan, the tempura was nicely salted after cooking, so the waitress told us that we should eat it plain, without any type of sauce. It was delicious...how could anything fried and salted not be delicious, of course! -- but it wasn't just the potato-chip-like qualities that were appealing, the flavor of the vegetables within really stood out.

Hiroyuki: Actually, Chris Cognac told me I should check out the vending machines, so that's why I took so many photos of them! But I find Japanese vending machines very appealing -- so colorful and fun. And the sheer variety of things you can get from vending machines is so different from here in the US.

One funny thing I noticed was that I was repeatedly told that such-and-such dish would contain "melon", when what it actually contained was chestnut. The first time it happened, I thought that it was a simple translation error, but when it happened again (at a different place), I wondered if there were a reason -- do the words sound similar in Japanese?

Has anyone tried those expensive mushrooms? Are they worth the $400? (I guess they are still cheaper than, say, truffles, but that's a lot of money for one fungus...)

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 03:03 PM

Thanks for all the comments on the photos! 

-- but there was another, spongy tofu that must take some getting used to.

One funny thing I noticed was that I was repeatedly told that such-and-such dish would contain "melon", when what it actually contained was chestnut.  The first time it happened, I thought that it was a simple translation error, but when it happened again (at a different place), I wondered if there were a reason -- do the words sound similar in Japanese?

Has anyone tried those expensive mushrooms?  Are they worth the $400?  (I guess they are still cheaper than, say, truffles, but that's a lot of money for one fungus...)

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The spongy tofu you are talking about is koya-dofu, this is a speciality that was actually created by monks living on Mt. Koya centuries ago, it is a freeze dried tofu that is then reconstituted, it may take some getting used to but it is wonderful!
there is some more on it in the soy class I did on the eGCI:
http://forums.egulle...showtopic=44086

The Japanese word for chestnut is kuri but when it is used in sweets they use the French pronunciation of marron, thus it is easy to confuse it with melon...


$400 mushrooms, sorry but that is way out of my price range! :biggrin:

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 04:59 PM

Those are some cool pics...yea vending machines baby!
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Posted 21 October 2004 - 05:00 PM

Wonderful stuff. Sounds like my kind of vacation - eating, shopping for food, taking pictures, eating... Thank you for sharing!

Those look like matsutake mushrooms. You've had those before, right? I've only had the ones from Oregon, which are delicious. They're mushroomy, of course, but with a complex topnote - almost like whiskey or brandy, IMHO. I'm surprised they weren't more prevalent in your meals.

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 06:29 PM

"Those look like matsutake mushrooms. You've had those before, right? I've only had the ones from Oregon, which are delicious. They're mushroomy, of course, but with a complex topnote - almost like whiskey or brandy, IMHO. I'm surprised they weren't more prevalent in your meals." (FoodZealot)

Well, we did have small pieces of matsutake mushrooms, but I wonder if the super-expensive ones actually taste better, or if they just cost more because they are so rare. (Kind of like wondering if the $100 melons actually taste that much better than the $15 ones...)

"The Japanese word for chestnut is kuri but when it is used in sweets they use the French pronunciation of marron, thus it is easy to confuse it with melon..." (Torakris)

Oh, that makes so much more sense! I only knew the word "kuri" for chestnut so I couldn't figure it out. I never realized that the Japanese say "marron", and when they used it in otherwise English language sentences, I just assumed it was "melon"! My mistake...

I'm sorry to see all the damage (and loss of human life) from the latest typhoon. I guess all those foods (produce and fish, at least) will be more expensive for a while. Did any of our Japanese members suffer any injuries or damage to their homes?

One other thing we were impressed by was the number of sweet shops. As you can tell from the photos, we probably went to at least one or two a day! How often do people who live in Japan frequent these types of shops? Usually we were the only non-Japanese in them. Do people make their own matcha at home?

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 11:26 PM

Oh, that makes so much more sense!  I only knew the word "kuri" for chestnut so I couldn't figure it out.  I never realized that the Japanese say "marron", and when they used it in otherwise English language sentences, I just assumed it was "melon"!  My mistake...

I'm sorry to see all the damage (and loss of human life) from the latest typhoon.  I guess all those foods (produce and fish, at least) will be more expensive for a while.  Did any of our Japanese members suffer any injuries or damage to their homes? 


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The Japanese use a lot of words that are not Japanese in origin like marron and don't really know the true country of origin, often falsely assuming they are English words.
This just happened in one of my English classes where all of my students assumed the word for questionnaire, (ankeeto アンケート) was English but it is actually from the French enquete.

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 12:17 AM

Muffin, can you give us an idea of what the prices were like? Naturally my attention is drawn towards the Kobe beef and sushi pictures, but I would be interested in finding out what the temple food cost and what you think in terms of price versus value.
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 02:58 PM

One other thing we were impressed by was the number of sweet shops.  As you can tell from the photos, we probably went to at least one or two a day!  How often do people who live in Japan frequent these types of shops?  Usually we were the only non-Japanese in them.  Do people make their own matcha at home?

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That really depends on the person. In my case, I probably go to one of those shops two or three times a year, only to buy a gift before visiting someone.
As for mattcha, I never drink mattcha at home; I drink sencha only.

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:06 PM

One other thing we were impressed by was the number of sweet shops.  As you can tell from the photos, we probably went to at least one or two a day!  How often do people who live in Japan frequent these types of shops?  Usually we were the only non-Japanese in them.  Do people make their own matcha at home?

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That really depends on the person. In my case, I probably go to one of those shops two or three times a year, only to buy a gift before visiting someone.
As for mattcha, I never drink mattcha at home; I drink sencha only.

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The only person I know who drinks "real" matcha at home is a fellow American friend...
As for the cake shops, I go about the same as Hiroyuki about 2 to 3 times a year... and I think most of my Japanese friends go about the same...

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:59 PM

It's probably the high population density in Japan, especially in urban areas, that gives Muffin that impression.

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 08:53 PM

Muffin, can you give us an idea of what the prices were like?  Naturally my attention is drawn towards the Kobe beef and sushi pictures, but I would be interested in finding out what the temple food cost and what you think in terms of price versus value.

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Hmmm, that's an interesting question. The prices for the ryokan (Tamahan in Kyoto) and temple (Shojoshin-in on Koya-san) included two meals (dinner and breakfast), so I'm not sure how much a similar meal at a restaurant would be. Perhaps the Japanese members can provide an estimate for an equivalent kaiseki meal and a temple meal?

Okay, I am looking through my receipts to find some prices... About value: I think I came away feeling that I had received excellent value for the money. For example, last year I went to a conference on Oahu and stayed at the conference hotel -- it cost a lot and the accomodations and service weren't particularly great (plus our "non-smoking" room was totally smoky). I feel that, for an equivalent amount of money, one night in a ryokan was a much better value than two or three nights in that big Hawaiian hotel. And I liked that the room prices were all you had to pay -- no worrying about additional taxes or tips or food charges. The restaurants, too -- at least if your meal price is expensive, you know that it's the final amount. No one will expect a tip, or try to push "sparkling or flat?" on you.

The yudofu dinner at Junsei (famous for its tofu; it also has a beautiful garden), for three people (including one bottle of sake), was 13,300 yen. It was a lot of food -- we couldn't finish it all, even though it was "only" tofu.

We had an amazing shabu-shabu meal in Kyoto that I did not photograph (forgot the darn camera that night!). This was at the Isetan branch (is there anything you CAN'T find at Isetan? See Sinbad's thread here: http://forums.egulle...showtopic=54063 , plus a lot of the take-out food on my photo website was from Isetan) of an apparently famous beef restaurant in Kyoto called Morita-ya. For shabu-shabu and suki-yaki, the prices per person for the various grades of beef were:

Special Selection (what we tried): 7,875 yen
Matsu: 6,090 yen
Take: 5,040 yen
Ume: 3,990 yen

The price included an enormous amount of food other than beef, such as a variety of vegetables and mushrooms, tofu and yuba, kudzu noodles, fat white noodles (like udon with elephantiasis!...I don't remember what they're called), mochi, pickles, miso soup, rice, fruit, and some other items which I can't remember now. I wish I had my camera because it was a thing of beauty!

According to the Morita-ya menu, the price for steak ("fillet or sirloin") is:
250g: 10,500 yen
200g: 8,400 yen
170g: 7,140 yen
150g: 6,090 yen
I'm not good at estimating how much our thin slices of beef for shabu-shabu weighed.

Of course, we also ate a lot of more reasonable, everyday food like okonomiyaki and ramen, which aren't too expensive. And for matcha plus one sweet I think the prices were typically around 600-650 yen per set.

Another question for our Japanese members: since we were across the street from Isetan, that's the only department store we went to. How do the food offerings vary among the department store? Is any one store felt to have better offerings or prices?

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 10:29 PM

Another question for our Japanese members:  since we were across the street from Isetan, that's the only department store we went to.  How do the food offerings vary among the department store?  Is any one store felt to have better offerings or prices?

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Pretty much if you have been to one department store basement you have been to them all, I don7t think there is too much difference, a lot of them even have the same stores....

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 01:13 AM

WOW!! Great photo's Muffin!! I love the vending machines too... especially on a cold winter afternoon when you can get a hot can of red bean drink!! :wub:

May i try my luck on the mystery dish?? I'm a novice in Japanese dish... but it seems to me like something fried (this im very sure)! Would you mind explaining to me if it's as sweet as a fig or is it savoury? How about the texture and colour? Maybe then we can sort of figure out what exactly it is!

=) HTH

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 01:20 AM

Very nice pictures, Muffin.

My guess for the mystery dish: yurine (lily root). Perhaps, as Phish said, deep fried and then simmered in dashi.
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Posted 31 October 2004 - 07:19 PM

Yah!! After much calling, we finally found hotel space in Kyoto for Nov. I know, I know, we are crazy to go with all the crowds, but we really wanted to see if the fall colors are as breathtaking as everyone says they are. We are night busing it, so we'll be there from morning of Nov 19th to the evening of Nov 23rd, four days.

With lodging out of the way, can anyone suggest any not to miss places for eating? We have one kaisei meal scheduled with our hotel already, and probably have the budget for another fancy dinner, doesn't have to be kaisei, just japanese (prob no more than 10000Yen per person). Other than that, we are pretty much going to go cheap( no more than 2000yen per person). I hear kyoto is famous for its tofu, right?

Also, if there are any not to miss places (esp the ones that are not on the usual tourist to do list, please let me know too).

-thanks

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Posted 02 November 2004 - 07:45 PM

We just got back a couple weeks ago from Kyoto (see my earlier thread!) and if you're looking for a special tofu restaurant, consider Junsei. It was about $120 for three of us (including a bottle of sake) for a fancy tofu tasting menu (very filling...you'd be surprised). Plus, the restaurant has lovely grounds, with a beautiful garden and different buildings for dining (depending on what you eat). I think it is a pretty famous restaurant in Kyoto. Here is their website: http://www.to-fu.co.jp

The earlier thread has the link to my photos, so you can wade through and find the ones of our Junsei meal!

Have a great trip -- there is so much to see and eat in Kyoto! If you like Japanese tea, make sure to take the short trip to Uji city...it has the oldest tea shop in the country, and you can participate in a traditional tea ceremony for only about $5 per person!

#89 tjdnewyork

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 07:53 AM

Hi,

I'm on a trip in Osaka and wondering about a kind of restaurant called kappo (or kappou?) . The skybar in my hotel (Righa Royal) has a kappo place that got me interested in this kind of restaurant, even though the quality of the hotel place is not great.

I found two places that look interesting:

Masuda
http://travel2.nytim...757C0A9679C8B63

Asai
http://itc.uci.edu/~...ansai-info.html

Anyone been to these places? Furthermore can anybody help to explain a little more about this type of restaurant and possibly make a recommendation for a kappo place in Osaka?

I'm with a Japanese speaker so it's okay if the place only has a Japanese menu, etc.

Thanks.

Edited by tjdnewyork, 04 January 2005 - 07:55 AM.


#90 Hiroyuki

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 03:14 PM

Furthermore can anybody help to explain a little more about this type of restaurant

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I can respond to this part of your question only. The original meaning of kappou is simply cooking. Kappou is spelled 割烹 in Chinese characters, the first character of which means to cut and the second to simmer. But the word has come to mean 'real' Japanese cooking. One person defines kappou jokingly as the 'face-to-face selling of dishes' (at the counter), but that style of serving dishes is not unique to kappou restaurants.
And there are itamae kappou (itamae = chef), taishuu kappou (taishuu = ordinary people), and kappou ryokan (ryokan = inn).