Cafe Atlantico
#31
Posted 10 March 2003 - 03:45 PM
My strategy at Zaytinya now is similar it seems to Vengroff, and after a bunch of meals there I say hold onto the menu--and only order a few dishes at a time from a single station--what I do is work my way through stations, first a round of salads, the Santorini fava and dips--all from the cold station--then flag the server down and order a second wave--say several just from the deep fry station--then several from the saute station, like the shrimp saganaki, the squid with spinach and the Monti dusted with sumac, and so on. That works out better, I think, because even if the place is full as a diner you don't really know how busy the kitchen is and the individual stations on the line are--they could be before or after a slam or one guy could be under; recently I was in a party of three and we ordered like 15 dishes at once--and all 15 were delivered at the same time. Which meant only 5 or 6 were tried at optimal temperature because we simply couldn't taste each one fast enough.
I think the servers handle these approaches very well--and why not take a little more control of how you order your dishes? It also helps to sit near the kitchen. The runners have less ground to cover to whisk something to you.
At Cafe the dim sum brunch can seem just as free form--the food is more creative with more attention, more garnishing, seemingly more visible "application of technique"--and I'll also give you a bit of news: that bar on the third floor is being ripped out and a Latino sushi bar is being installed very shortly. So even dinner might get more free form there.
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#32
Posted 10 March 2003 - 05:17 PM
I won't recount every dish we tried -- there were I think 27 in all -- but I'll highlight a few of the ones that really blew me away.
The single best dish of the day was the potato and vanilla mousse with American caviar. This comes in a narrow vodka glass -- cleverly, the spoon is placed in the glass before filling, so as to avoid the problem of reaching into the corners -- and consists of what I assume is a potato foam courtesy of an ISI Profi Whip, some vanilla-infused oil, and a dollop of American sturgeon roe. I notice on the online menu it's listed with salmon roe, which I can interpolate would be equally good and maybe even a bit more dynamic. Obviously, foams are now being done to death at every restaurant, but here's an example of a dish that uses the technique un-self-consciously to great effect: you get all the flavor of the potato but in an ethereal, lighter format that would make as nice a snack at 3:00am as it would at brunch time. The vanilla kick makes the dish transcendent. It would be a great dish without any roe of any kind, by the way. This is the dish where people were asking for seconds (the tasting menu procedure is that if you want another dose of something they'll happily bring it to you; I suppose there's a limit to how much of this they'll indulge but there seemed to be quite a lot of room to maneuver -- it's not technically all-you-can-eat, but it was reported to us that nobody finishes so I guess you'd call it de facto all-you-can-eat as in all-you're-capable-of-eating or all-you'd-ever-actually-want-to-eat-outside-of-an-eating-contest-situation).
But back to the time-of-day issue: when I was eating Jose's food, the thing I kept thinking was that I could eat so many of these dishes at any time of the day or night. The mix of sweet and savory blurs the line between appetizer/entree and dessert courses, but that's really just the surface-level challenge. On a deeper level, I think much of Jose's food rejects all the traditional notions of what you'd eat for breakfast, brunch, dinner, whatever. It's food, unplugged. It keeps bringing me back to the notion of how pathetically underrated this restaurant is. I know Tom Sietsema has given it some play and that lots of people in the food media are dimly aware of Jose (indeed, several of the big-name chefs in New York have been quietly making pilgrimages to DC to sample Jose's food), but if this guy was in New York City he'd be the hottest thing in town.
Very close behind the potato foam -- a three-way for first place, almost -- were two "ravioli" dishes. The scare quotes are on account of the ravioli wrappers being made out mango (in one case) and jicama (in the other case). Probably the better of the two was the jicama-avocado ravioli. The texture of the wrappers (it's pretty much a beggar's purse format) is more interesting than the mango, and the filling is basically the world's creamiest guacamole. The mango anchovy ravioli had a fascinating anchovy foam filling -- it had the same style of aromatics as something smoky might have, but it wasn't smoky. This is probably a function of the foam and how it bursts out of the wrapper and seemingly dissolves into your tongue when you bite down.
Scallops with orange oil weren't interesting by the standards of the rest of the menu. They just happened to be fabulous, big, fat, medium-rare sea scallops. So I enjoyed them, and it was nice every few courses to be hit with something more anchored to the familiar food categories. In the context of this meal, this was one of the comfort-food courses. A few other very effective homey, hearty tastes were in the form of steak with a tamarind sauce (cut into rectangular blocks and stacked like Lincoln Logs); duck confit with passion fruit oil; and some grilled lamb that was unremarkable (the species was somewhat redeemed by another lamb dish -- braised shank -- that was damn flavorful). But probably the most deeply satisfying of the hearty dishes was the quail in Latin spices. Quail is one of those things that so many restaurants overcook or otherwise fuck up. This was good-quality quail, cooked medium, and full of its juices -- skin crisp, meat tender, and overall not the slightest bit chewy. The spices amplified rather than overwhelmed and the whole package was irresistible.
Some of the most fascinating dishes were the vegetarian ones, three in particular: coconut rice with crispy rice, quinoa with cauliflower, and pineapple shavings with plantain powder. These are deceptively simple-seeming dishes yet I imagine they're among the most challenging from a production standpoint what with all the soaking of grains and fine hand-work and such. Each dish had little treasures buried throughout, like little bits of caramelized onion or whatever. The point being, these are dishes that seem a bit like side-orders (I think at least one of them is a veg side at dinner) but actually benefit from being appreciated as stand-alone dishes. There was also a nice dish of asparagus with oranges, but I didn't think it lived up to the others conceptually.
I'm going to cut myself off here. We also had conch fritters, tuna ceviche with coconut, oysters with some sort of fruit juice and oil, seared cigalas (aka big-ass prawns) with vanilla oil, shrimp with tamarind oil, red snapper with avocado, salmon with buttery papaya, a jicama-arugula thing that looked like a sushi roll (this has been featured in Food Arts), portobello and cuitlacoche quesadillas, sea urchin with blood orange (great combo but the sheer quantity of orange knocks out the urchin taste), chocolate cake with avocado and tomato, and some cookies. I think that's all.
Now, to clarify, we were to a certain extent VIPs because Steve Klc is a colleague of Jose. However, we gave less than an hour's notice so there was no special preparation made for our arrival. We probably got 10% more service and food-quantity than you would if you walked in off the street, and we probably got exactly the treatment you would get if you were eating there for the fourth or fifth time and you were recognized as a regular. As I mentioned, all the "off-menu" stuff we got was going out to other tables as well -- just not all of it to any one table -- and actually I think almost all of the best dishes we ate were on-menu anyway.
We sat on the top floor, and next time I'd probably choose to sit one floor down (third floor) in order to look into the open kitchen. The other people in my group raved about the mojitos and consumed them with vigor -- I can report vicariously that the thing to do is suck on the sugar cane skewer. There are some nice, fresh squeezed watermelon and cantaloupe juices that I tasted. The wine list is broad-based and creative. The Lurton pinot gris from Argentina was versatile and was a dead ringer for a Pacific Northwest specimen. And the 2000 Montes "Alpha" Cabernet from Chile was just delicious with the final round of meat dishes. The restaurant's wine list is on the Web site, with prices.
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#33
Posted 10 March 2003 - 05:25 PM
In Good Thyme
#34
Posted 10 March 2003 - 05:27 PM
Steve, that's approximately what we did last night at Zaytinya - would a similar approach be appropriate for CA also?My strategy at Zaytinya now is similar it seems to Vengroff, and after a bunch of meals there I say hold onto the menu--and only order a few dishes at a time from a single station--what I do is work my way through stations...
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#35
Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:04 PM
Ajay, at present no meal at Cafe Atlantico provides the full opportunity to sample Steve Klc's desserts. Thus far he has only implemented a full menu of his desserts at Zaytinya. Cafe and Jaleo are next on his list -- he's working on the desserts now, you might see an experimental one come out here and there (as we did with the chocolate-avocado-tomato dessert), but the big push comes later. He can tell you exact dates, I'm sure. But I think it's safe to say that within a couple of months you'll be seeing Klc desserts at all of Jose's restaurants. Right now, though, Zayt. is the place to sample them. Of course, you can always wander by Zayt. for dessert after you eat at Cafe -- if you have room.As exciting as the brunch sounds, it doesn't seem to provide the best opportunity for sampling steve's desserts....speaking of which, in a remarkable injustice to sweet seekers the world over, there is no mention of dessert on the website--a travesty!!
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#36
Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:22 PM
And I'll tell you what--if you're there at 9 or 10PM on a weekend watching these beautiful dreamy people walk up the stairs you'll know what I mean. You won't remember that the building could use a little facelift.
Shaw started to get into this but say you are or you're with some of Washington DC's more typical conservative military/civil service/politico types when it comes to food--kind of unadventurous, possibly even nervous about stepping outside their box of safely defined food--well the success of so many of Jose's and Kat's dishes here is they're creative but not too strange and inaccessible. They're also just good. Foams aren't necessarily done well elsewhere; simple stuff is also not necessarily easy to do well. At Cafe there's this fried egg and bean dish on the dim sum menu. Trust me, it's sooo good. I don't know why but it is. As an "adventurous" diner you might not order this egg--but in the tasting it might just come upon you! And Cafe definitely has this kind of magic rare in this city--where even non-foodies can pick up those seemingly innocuous slices of pineapple--perfectly piled just so--with chopsticks and then proceed to talk about them, to talk about the dish. That doesn't happen so often in DC.
That said--I do think it is possible to tailor how you order and what you order to your schedule--but I suspect if you made it clear to your server what you wanted, how much time you had, if you had to catch an event, etc. it would really be a non-issue. That's part of what I mean by the difference between 230 seats and 120 seats and a higher price point--with that higher price point legitimately comes higher expectation. Anyway you ordered a la carte you should be fine. Also, how this might be affected when the new Latino sushi bar is installed remains to be seen.
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#37
Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:43 PM
#38
Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:53 PM
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#39
Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:58 PM
And I do have two new desserts at Cafe--they debuted just after New Years and you can order them anytime: a chocolate-banana-lime dessert and a coconut cream with a mango-vanilla salad and lime gelee. There's a hint of the wonderful Montes Late Harvest dessert wine in the mango salad. The rest will debut soon.
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#40
Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:14 PM
Hopefully, Steve will have rolled out more desserts by early April for someone of such incredibley vip status as myself!!And I do have two new desserts at Cafe--they debuted just after New Years and you can order them anytime: a chocolate-banana-lime dessert and a coconut cream with a mango-vanilla salad and lime gelee. There's a hint of the wonderful Montes Late Harvest dessert wine in the mango salad. The rest will debut soon.
The coconut cream sounds fascinating, though my acceptance of coconut as an dessert item is only recent.
On a completleey deifferent note, Steve, you're involved with Jaleo too? Man you and Jose have your fingers in almost all of the interesting dinning I've been getting rumblings about in DC!! Congrats. I trust at the appropriate time you'll fill us in on what you're conceiving there also.
#41
Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:24 PM
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#42
Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:49 PM
#43
Posted 10 March 2003 - 08:37 PM
That's definitely high praise, especially since Steve Klc has written on this board that Jose "saves his best stuff for magazine work, consulting, charity chef events, Beard dinners and friends that impose and ask to get married in his restaurant". It'll be interesting to see if he decides to open a truly high end place in the future. My completely uneducated guess/hope would be that if he sees Grant Achatz at Trio and/or Wylie Dufresne at WD50 have success in this arena he will give it a go himself. If Fat Guy's already proclaiming him one of the best and he's not even offering his best stuff yet we hopefully have a lot to look forward to. Also, if you haven't already I'd reccomend checking out joseandres.com, there's not that much there but the bites section gives a glimpse of what he might be capable of at his most creative.what you've got is a chef who, if not the best chef I've encountered in America, has got to be the best of his generation, at least in the arena of forward-thinking, creative cuisine.
#44
Posted 10 March 2003 - 09:11 PM
Also, if you haven't already I'd recommend checking out www.joseandres.com...
Beautiful site!
I've had an eye on Jose for quite some time. I've only dined at Jaleo (Bethesda); when I was last in DC (Fall 2001), I was under the impression that he had left CA, and therefore I chose Citronelle for the 'big meal.' Looks like I need an excuse to return...
#45
Posted 10 March 2003 - 09:20 PM
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#46
Posted 11 March 2003 - 09:38 AM
Maybe some people fantasize-- like Conticni -- about freedom from rules. Doing fun creative food at a price point to open the doors of appreciation for a wider audience.
being a zebra in a herd just doesn't look all that glamorous to some. After all, its just a matter of time until you are the slow one at the edge of the herd and get picked off by some lion.
#47
Posted 11 March 2003 - 09:57 AM
Responding to Marian Burros, Tom Sietsema actually said something a bit defensive but I wonder if there isn't more than a few grains of truth to it:
"And just for the record, my trips to New York over the past few years have been less and less delicious. With few exceptions (Atelier comes to mind), the Big Apple could use a Big Jolt of energy.”
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#48
Posted 11 March 2003 - 10:15 AM
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#49
Posted 11 March 2003 - 10:55 AM
You are thinking of one model, but what is the 'dream' of most would-be restauranteurs? Is it not a tidy little place of their own where they cook their heart's desire simply because they love it and life is like an endless series of dinner parties?
Of course, I am veering way off base from this thread I suppose.
#50
Posted 11 March 2003 - 02:13 PM
Many chef/restaurateurs have that fantasy, but the reality is that in order to maximize freedom of expression you need money: money to buy the best ingredients, money to hire enough and well-enough-trained staff to execute your dishes for however many people you're serving, money to hire a front-of-the-house staff that can communicate your vision to the customers, etc. What I've seen in my limited encounter with Jose's food is, on the one hand, brilliance, and on the other hand, that same brilliance capped by practical limitations. Maybe I'm not everybody, but if I had that kind of culinary talent I would eventually lose patience with working under those restrictions. I'd want to make a big mark on the international dining scene, and the way to do that is with an international destination restaurant that competes with the best in the world. It doesn't have to be stuffy or overly formal. But it does have to be expensive.what is the 'dream' of most would-be restauranteurs? Is it not a tidy little place of their own where they cook their heart's desire simply because they love it and life is like an endless series of dinner parties?
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#51
Posted 11 March 2003 - 02:33 PM
Let me ask this--how many stories of "brilliant" chefs have we come across who couldn't impose the practical limitations on themselves in order to run successful restaurants in a sustained fashion putting money away the whole time?
It may just be Jose is patient and practical as a fox beyond his young years and that there's more agreement in these posts that we realize.
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#52
Posted 11 March 2003 - 02:38 PM
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#53
Posted 11 March 2003 - 03:54 PM
#54
Posted 11 March 2003 - 04:08 PM
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#55
Posted 11 March 2003 - 04:18 PM
As you can see, it gets 2 stars out of 4 from Post readers. The reviews are split between very favorable and very unfavorable ones. Some of the bad reviews cite small portions for the price. If you look through the Post user reviews in general, you will see this complaint over and over and over again. It's as if price per pound is the metric of quality in this town. I pretty much universally dismiss these. The other complaints all seem to have to do with service. I haven't personally had a problem with service there, but others seem to have.
#56
Posted 11 March 2003 - 04:25 PM
Thats not a comment to be taken lightly though. I did feel my entree at Cafe Atlantico, their pork chop, was a bit skimpy, being served only a single chop. Overall I would have been happier by just eating their appetizers.Some of the bad reviews cite small portions for the price. If you look through the Post user reviews in general, you will see this complaint over and over and over again.
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#57
Posted 11 March 2003 - 05:06 PM
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#58
Posted 11 March 2003 - 07:37 PM
I've got no problem spending 30 odd dollars for exemplary pork chops, and I have done so.
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#59
Posted 16 March 2003 - 01:37 PM
#60
Posted 16 March 2003 - 02:35 PM
The meal was structured around a series of collections of small dishes. Two to four dishes would be presented at a time, in a succession designed to provide a full spectrum experience in each course. Many of the dishes we had have been discussed above, but I'll mention a few that I think merit special attention.
First, there was the pinapple with olive oil and cripsy plantains. The pinapple was shaved paper thin, then formed into bite-sized flowers reminiscent of the ginger one sees with sushi. It was drizzled with a nice fruity olive oil and then sprinked with crispy bits of fried plantian. It was eaten with chopsticks, dim-sum dumpling style. The crunch accent over a smooth underlying texture was a motif repeated in a number of other dishes, and it worked really well in most all of them. The sweetness of the pinapple and the fruitiness of the olive oil worked well together, blending into a new and interesting flavor in which each did its part.
Another really special dish was the famous jicama-arugala roll. It may be blasphemous to say so, but the roll itself was not the special part. Instead, it was the accompanying salad of sweet corn, cabralas cheese and crispy quinoa that did it for me. Again, it was a set of textures and flavors working together to create something really new and interesting.
I also really enjoyed was the egg with veracruz sauce. This was a soft fried egg over a dense ragu of tomato and olives. Cracking the yolk and allowing it to meld with the vegetables creates a beautiful thick velvety consitency.
Huitlacoche quesadillas and guacamole made table-side were two dishes that stood out on the menu for their simplicity, but they were excellent examples of their genres. A thick custardy Brazillian french toast filled with a mild cheese was also a favorite at the table.
I rarely ever go out for brunch because it is generally predictable and uninteresting, not to mention poorly executed. That is absolutely not the case here. Faced with the choice of brunch at Cafe Atlantico or dinner almost anywhere else in town, I'd take the brunch. It is an incredibly exciting meal.









