I'll save you a seat next to me at the meetings. We're currently on Chapter 7 of "Disabilities for Dummies." It's called "How to Make Friends and Ask Strangers to Grab That Thing on the Top Shelf."I don't have any real disabilities, yet,
Ingrid
Posted 20 May 2004 - 03:13 PM
I'll save you a seat next to me at the meetings. We're currently on Chapter 7 of "Disabilities for Dummies." It's called "How to Make Friends and Ask Strangers to Grab That Thing on the Top Shelf."I don't have any real disabilities, yet,
Posted 20 May 2004 - 03:33 PM
The hardest thing for me though is not cooking, per se. It's getting the food, or to be more exact, finding the acceptable level of compromise regarding quality. It's great that foodies insist on fresh, organic and/or locally grown, antibiotic-free stuff. I care about sustainability. But I work full-time, am on two boards, write fiction, my friends are equally busy, and I have limited paratransit with which to travel. Frankly, I don't WANT to use Safeway delivery but it's the easiest and cheapest. It's a source of guilt as well -- shouldn't I be supporting farmer's markets, etc.? And I won't even go into the gastronomic trauma that is Safeway proscuitto. I desperately want to be a control freal about what I buy but cannot be.
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Posted 20 May 2004 - 03:36 PM
Ingridsf-That reminds me -- frozen organic fruit and frozen puff pastry shells are so easy to make desserts with. Add ice cream, chocolate sauce, a little brandy, liqueur, or an unholy mixture of all and dig in.
Posted 20 May 2004 - 04:00 PM
I'm fascinated. This is of course at a lesser level of seriousness than motor disability, but I find it curious that it's not a subject often treated (or perhaps it's merely my own ignorance). A few years ago after a respiratory ailment I spent a year totally without a sense of smell. It was a challenge I'd rather not face again.Please join us for Part Three/Sensory Issues.At a much lower level of seriousness, there are some dedicated foodies who develop sensory disabilities, either temporary or permanent, such as loss of smell, which can make one relient on extremely strong flavors and those sensations that may remain; e.g. heat, salt, sweetness. I realize that this is a totally different area from physical disabilities involving motor functions.
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Part Two also addresses some of these issues. So much is interrelated. Our three perspectives touch on many different aspects of disabilities.
Posted 20 May 2004 - 04:09 PM
Oh, verily, say ye, Mayhaw Man. Especially when thou:Ingridsf-That reminds me -- frozen organic fruit and frozen puff pastry shells are so easy to make desserts with. Add ice cream, chocolate sauce, a little brandy, liqueur, or an unholy mixture of all and dig in.
I think that the argument that these are HOLY items when combined with abandon and glee can pretty easily be made.![]()
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I stand with all who have praised the authors of this class. It is truly inspired and wonderful work.
Posted 20 May 2004 - 10:56 PM
John, we also felt that this topic is often ignored. Food-related sensory issues can be very serious. We just can't live without eating! Although not the same as other physical or intellectual disabilities, the problems can be distressing, and debilitating, making it difficult for the person to enjoy eating and to maintain sufficient nutrition in their diet. These issues often reflect just one aspect of the disabilities a person is dealing with, or they may be the main problem.I'm fascinated. This is of course at a lesser level of seriousness than motor disability, but I find it curious that it's not a subject often treated (or perhaps it's merely my own ignorance). A few years ago after a respiratory ailment I spent a year totally without a sense of smell. It was a challenge I'd rather not face again.Please join us for Part Three/Sensory Issues.At a much lower level of seriousness, there are some dedicated foodies who develop sensory disabilities, either temporary or permanent, such as loss of smell, which can make one relient on extremely strong flavors and those sensations that may remain; e.g. heat, salt, sweetness. I realize that this is a totally different area from physical disabilities involving motor functions.
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Part Two also addresses some of these issues. So much is interrelated. Our three perspectives touch on many different aspects of disabilities.
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Posted 20 May 2004 - 11:46 PM
You're not being a princess, Ingridsf! This is what we're doing here.And to you, specialteach:
Thank you, for the csa tip. Actually, I got The Box a number of years ago, and am thinking of trying a similar but not csa business called planetorganics. It sounds kind of like a minor problem but buying produce this way requires -- quite appropriately -- a bit more effort to clean, trim, and bag up stuff for storage until use. The other issues are coordinating delivery from more than one supplier (I'd still have to use Safeway), and making sure they actually bring delivery up the stairs. Writing these little things up makes me feel like I'm being a princess but it adds up fast, as I'm sure you get.
On to Part 2!
Best,
Ingrid
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No, unless it is too great a burden for you, you should come out of the closet. Limitation is our common fate. It’s all degree. Do not become “invisible.”One of the things I love about eG is that all that matters is our love of food. In my noncomputer world I am constantly thinking about "do I tell them about my illness" and "are my medicinally induced food issues making me look crazier than usual?"
Coming out of the illness/disability closet is a difficult decision. There are days when I want to shout it from the rooftops, but then I remember our society still has a long way to go with acceptance of others.
Hopefully this course will help people realize that we really are just like everyone else.
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 12:14 PM
Further, all of us will experience some degree of impairment at some time in our lives either from accident or illness which may be temporary or from the creeping diminutions of time. We need to incorporate this reality into our society's values and practices.
Posted 21 May 2004 - 12:52 PM
You better believe it. The numbers are troubling. Just in California, there are 6 million people with disabilities. As the population ages, access to nutrition, housing, and health care diminishes, and the judicial backlash against the Americans With Disabilities continues, more and more people will, ironically, become disabled.No, unless it is too great a burden for you, you should come out of the closet. Limitation is our common fate. It’s all degree. Do not become “invisible.”One of the things I love about eG is that all that matters is our love of food. In my noncomputer world I am constantly thinking about "do I tell them about my illness" and "are my medicinally induced food issues making me look crazier than usual?"
Coming out of the illness/disability closet is a difficult decision. There are days when I want to shout it from the rooftops, but then I remember our society still has a long way to go with acceptance of others.
Hopefully this course will help people realize that we really are just like everyone else.
Ironically, our society often treats those with greater than average limitations with callousness, impatience, or indifference. And yet many not only transcend those limitations in their personal lives but can achieve in their public lives eminence denied to most of us. Witness a scientist such as Hawkings or painters such as DeKooning who made some of his most poetic paintings in the last stages of Alzheimer or Chuck Close whose paintings after his stroke rival and perhaps surpass anything he did earlier.
Further, all of us will experience some degree of impairment at some time in our lives either from accident or illness which may be temporary or from the creeping diminutions of time. We need to incorporate this reality into our society's values and practices.
Posted 21 May 2004 - 01:10 PM
I echo your sentiments greatly.Further, all of us will experience some degree of impairment at some time in our lives either from accident or illness which may be temporary or from the creeping diminutions of time. We need to incorporate this reality into our society's values and practices.
Very well said, Mottmott.
Posted 21 May 2004 - 01:25 PM
I believe that the only way that people's attitudes and misconceptions of people with disabilities will be changed is to be more exposed, not less, to realize they know and interact with people with disabilities every day of their lives. Mottmott is right -- it is all a matter of degrees.No, unless it is too great a burden for you, you should come out of the closet. Limitation is our common fate. It’s all degree. Do not become “invisible.”One of the things I love about eG is that all that matters is our love of food. In my noncomputer world I am constantly thinking about "do I tell them about my illness" and "are my medicinally induced food issues making me look crazier than usual?"
Coming out of the illness/disability closet is a difficult decision. There are days when I want to shout it from the rooftops, but then I remember our society still has a long way to go with acceptance of others.
Hopefully this course will help people realize that we really are just like everyone else.
Ironically, our society often treats those with greater than average limitations with callousness, impatience, or indifference. And yet many not only transcend those limitations in their personal lives but can achieve in their public lives eminence denied to most of us. Witness a scientist such as Hawkings or painters such as DeKooning who made some of his most poetic paintings in the last stages of Alzheimer or Chuck Close whose paintings after his stroke rival and perhaps surpass anything he did earlier.
Further, all of us will experience some degree of impairment at some time in our lives either from accident or illness which may be temporary or from the creeping diminutions of time. We need to incorporate this reality into our society's values and practices.
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Ingrid, what a true learning experience they passed up on that one! They want to help people with disabilities, but they are not willing to experience even the slightest bit of what many of us live with daily? They need to start with an ADAtude sensitivity course for all their members. The daily dignities we all deserve as human beings should not be discounted as unimportant because there is no monetary value attached to them.It's really hard sometimes when you think you're in an enlightened environment and -- ZING -- somebody says or does something that you would have sworn would never happen there. Like the national disability services org I was considering of joining the board of. Surely this would be an exemplar of progressive attitudes and equal access! Nah, not so much. The all-day retreat didn't have accessible bathrooms. The disturbingly few of us with disabilities who were there were casually told to raise our hands when we needed to go so someone could take us and assist. I didn't know a soul in the room and wasn't expecting to get to know them while I sat on the potty. I asked if we could all follow the same procedure, to at least level the field a bit. Nope. And taking a pass on that board was an easy decision.
Being an activist is SUCH a joy.
It's hard to find information about our lives with disabilities -- I generally feel like I don't exist demographically. Very little is out there that talks about what it's like for women and girls with disabilities. A wonderful, warm-hearted researcher named Harilyn Rousso has a study, "Strong, Proud Sisters," on the Women's Policy Research website in DC. Here's the link to the publications page:
http://www.centerwom...cfm?ProgramID=9
Corbett O'Toole, teacher, disabled, mother of a disabled daughter, will make you feel positively excited about life in general: http://www.centerwom...m?StatementID=5
The on-line magazine The Ragged Edge publishes a whole range of writing on what it's like to live with a disability: http://www.ragged-edge-mag.com/
On the print side, there's Mouth magazine. Uppity, in your face and a real kick to the backside when such kicks really are called for. http://www.mouthmag.org/
If you're not just annoyed/momentarily disheartened but think some legal muscle needs toning, check out the Disability Rights and Education Defense Fund: www.dredf.org.
Need for a disability-related class action lawsuit getting you down? Check out Disability Rights Advocates: http://www.dralegal.org/
Hope you don't mind links that aren't about food/cooking. Just that it took me a lot of effort to find these, and never know who might use them. Back to our regularly scheduled program!
Ingrid
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Posted 24 May 2004 - 02:24 PM
Susan, come down to visit me! Your friend is very fortunate to have you. The gift certificates is a wonderful idea.To return this thread to food.
A close friend, Melissa, has MS. She has good days and bad days. She is married and her husband, Doug, is a great help, but teaches and some of his classes are evening classes. Melissa loves food, and really misses being able to cook on her "off" days.
So, for her birthday and Christmas every year, I give her food-related gifts. "Gift Certificates" good for many things like either taking her to the grocery store and assisting her, helping her prep food, or shopping for her. Certificates offering to assist in prep for a special meal she may want to cook for Doug. While they dine, I retire to another room with a book, and take care of the clean-up. Frozen meals, portioned in one-person portions -- if it's she and Doug, she can take out two portions; if she's alone, she can take out one portion.
Judith mentioned in a recent e-mail that someone had given her 30 lbs. of peaches, which she is fighting to take care of. I would not only have given her the peaches, but spent the day with her helping to prep, can, make cobbler, talking.
These little things are greatly appreciated. Gifts to people with disabilites do not have to be stuff they have to dust or won't use. They don't have to cost a lot. If the friend/relative enjoys good food, think of ways to help that person enjoy food.
Posted 03 June 2004 - 06:29 PM