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"Baking With Julia" by Julia Child (2004)


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#631 SethG

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Posted 14 August 2004 - 07:30 AM

I'll make savarin today, I think. But I'm going to skip the pear eau de vie-- I may use a little brandy or cognac instead. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts on the wisdom of such a substitution.

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Posted 14 August 2004 - 10:41 AM

Sorry, jgarner, but I think I'm actually not making the Savarin after all. We're having guests, one of whom is an AA member, so I'm obliged not to serve a dessert that's soaked in rum and liquor.

I have all these berries I bought for the Savarin, so I think I might make the Baked Yogurt Tart (p. 368). This actually looks very easy, and it was contributed by Leslie Mackie, who also contributed the really tasty apple tart we made near the beginning of this thread.
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Posted 15 August 2004 - 11:37 AM

Yeah, I decided against the savarin as well and am trying to make mousse au chocolate from Mastering the Art.
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Posted 15 August 2004 - 12:50 PM

I'd say the yogurt tart came out well (sorry, no pic). The recipe makes a very deep tart with a rich yogurt custard under the berries. I would make it again, but I think I would make it in a standard nine inch tart pan instead of a springform, and cut the amount of yogurt custard in half. This would make the dessert a little lighter and place more emphasis on the fruit. And I thought there was a little too much vanilla, so I'd cut back on that a little too.
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Posted 18 August 2004 - 04:19 AM

SethG,

I haven't been participating in this thread, but I've always wondered about Leslie Mackie's yogurt tart and whether the fat content of the yogurt affects its structure. Did you actually use non-fat (insert shiver of horror here) yogurt? If so, was it thickened with gelatin, agar, starch, or a combination of the above? I just can't help thinking that you have to use good-tasting ingredients to get a good-tasting result... but maybe this tart is the exception that proves the rule.

Thanks!

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 05:31 AM

SethG,

I haven't been participating in this thread, but I've always wondered about Leslie Mackie's yogurt tart and whether the fat content of the yogurt affects its structure. Did you actually use non-fat (insert shiver of horror here) yogurt? If so, was it thickened with gelatin, agar, starch, or a combination of the above? I just can't help thinking that you have to use good-tasting ingredients to get a good-tasting result... but maybe this tart is the exception that proves the rule.

Thanks!

I was most tempted to substitute whole milk yogurt for the non-fat. I share your disdain for non-fat yogurt as a general matter. In this instance, the yogurt is thickened mostly with flour. It is also enriched with eggs, butter, vanilla, and sugar, I think. I went with the non-fat yogurt because I feared the whole fat yogurt would result in a brick-like texture.

In the end, I thought the dessert was quite rich-- maybe more than I wanted it to be. But you're right, there was a little bit of that non-fat yogurt taste, which left me wondering if a substitution might have been an improvement.
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#637 yslee

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Posted 19 August 2004 - 05:14 AM

In this instance, the yogurt is thickened mostly with flour.  It is also enriched with eggs, butter, vanilla, and sugar, I think.

What I meant to ask was, what kind of non-fat yogurt did you use and was the thickening agent in it that made skim milk behave like yogurt? In my experience, non-fat yogurts made with gelatin are too creepily unctuous but the starch-thickened ones are... well, starchy. (I'm trying to figure out which would perform better in the tart recipe.) Sorry for any confusion.

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Posted 19 August 2004 - 06:36 AM

What I meant to ask was, what kind of non-fat yogurt did you use and was the thickening agent in it that made skim milk behave like yogurt? In my experience, non-fat yogurts made with gelatin are too creepily unctuous but the starch-thickened ones are... well, starchy. (I'm trying to figure out which would perform better in the tart recipe.) Sorry for any confusion.

Oh. Sorry. I used Stonyfield Farm. Here's the ingredient list:

OUR FAMILY RECIPE: CULTURED PASTEURIZED ORGANIC NONFAT MILK, INULIN, PECTIN. CONTAINS: CONTAINS SIX LIVE ACTIVE CULTURES INCLUDING: L. ACIDOPHILUS, BIFIDUS, L. CASEI, AND L. REUTERI. 



I think the use of pectin puts this in your gelatin/"creepily unctuous" family. For nonfat yogurt, I think it's pretty good.
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#639 yslee

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 04:59 AM

Ah. Thanks, SethG.

 

 

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