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Absinthe: The Topic


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#511 Tim Dolan

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:22 AM

I recently had a miserable weather weekend to myself and figure the best way to fortify myself would be to drink Sazeracs all weekend. I had a bottle of good bourbon but no absinthe, so in a moment of self indulgence I sprang for a $60 bottle of Vieux Carre so I could coat the inside of the glass. The obvious problem, of course, is that at this rate I have enough absinthe to last for a lifetime of Sazeracs. I could drink it the old fashioned way, but that would get boring quick. What to do with it all?
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:29 AM

I've never heard of anyone cooking with it, though maybe you could use it in place of Pernod.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:13 AM

What to do with it all?


I'm fond of this from time-to-time. Crowd pleaser too, if your crowd likes craft.

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1 1/2 oz Aperol
1 oz Absinthe, Lucid
1 oz Lemon juice
1/4 oz Simple syrup
1 ds Orange bitters, Regans' orange bitters
1 twst Orange peel (flamed, as garnish)

Shake, strain, straight up, cocktail glass, garnish.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:54 AM

Given the price of absinthe, I'm rather glad that a little goes a long way....

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:54 PM

I'm fond of this from time-to-time. Crowd pleaser too, if your crowd likes craft.

2 to 2
by Stephan Cole, The Violet Hour, Chicago, IL
1 1/2 oz Aperol
1 oz Absinthe, Lucid
1 oz Lemon juice
1/4 oz Simple syrup
1 ds Orange bitters, Regans' orange bitters
1 twst Orange peel (flamed, as garnish)

Shake, strain, straight up, cocktail glass, garnish.

I'm definitely going to have to try that one.
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#516 radtek

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

I've never had it due to unavailability but is its properties' reputation deserved? I would like to try absinthe...

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:29 PM

Other than the Sazerac, other cocktails that immediately come to mind are the Improved Whiskey Cocktail, the Corpse Reviver No. 2, the Rattlesnake, the French Pearl and also tiki cocktails with the Test Pilot or the 1934 Zombie.
See the Absinthe topic or MxMo XLVI (roundup part I and II) for more ideas.

You could also make absinthe cakes, absinthe ice cream, etc.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:19 PM

I've never had it due to unavailability but is its properties' reputation deserved? I would like to try absinthe...


There is no psychoactive effect, other than alcohol. It tastes like black licorice / fennel. If you like that flavor, get a bottle. I personally don't drink it often except as an ingredient. As a rinse, a bottle goes a long way, as the OP noted. If you like Pernod / Ricard, then definitely try a bottle. It is more interesting, less sweet, and higher in alcohol.
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#519 radtek

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:32 PM


I've never had it due to unavailability but is its properties' reputation deserved? I would like to try absinthe...


There is no psychoactive effect, other than alcohol. It tastes like black licorice / fennel. If you like that flavor, get a bottle. I personally don't drink it often except as an ingredient. As a rinse, a bottle goes a long way, as the OP noted. If you like Pernod / Ricard, then definitely try a bottle. It is more interesting, less sweet, and higher in alcohol.


My suspicion. As an aperitif alcohol can have some potent affects on an empty stomach...

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:41 PM

I can't remember off the top of my head (and too tired to look it up), but some French absinthe I had in the time after it was reintroduced in Europe but still banned in the States gave me a sort of clear-headed feeling for half an hour or so, then I was just left with a gigantic alcohol wallop for the rest of the night. There's no real "high" or "tripping" sensation though.

Ethanol by the way does have a psychoactive effect, that's what intoxication is!

#521 radtek

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:49 AM

I seem to remember that the wine industry in France was suffering due to the popularity of Absinthe. The infamously purported perils of the liquor were actually a result brought on by a smear campaign that ended with the banning of absinthe in 1914. Sounds familiar... :hmmm:

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:52 AM

I seem to remember that the wine industry in France was suffering due to the popularity of Absinthe. The infamously purported perils of the liquor were actually a result brought on by a smear campaign that ended with the banning of absinthe in 1914. Sounds familiar... :hmmm:


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#523 Kent Wang

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 09:25 PM

The Whisky Exchange absinthe selection includes the Jades in 20 cl bottles for around £22 (~$30 ex VAT). Which one should I get for cocktail purposes?



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 07:42 AM

The Whisky Exchange absinthe selection includes the Jades in 20 cl bottles for around £22 (~$30 ex VAT). Which one should I get for cocktail purposes?

 

My favorite is the Edouard (72%), mostly for Sazeracs & similar rinse/garnish applications.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 03:42 PM

The Whisky Exchange absinthe selection includes the Jades in 20 cl bottles for around £22 (~$30 ex VAT). Which one should I get for cocktail purposes?

 

They have St. George too. I've been very happy with it, by itself or in cocktails. Give it a shot.

 

After the Gastown, last night I tried another creation from Happiness Forgets, this one by Johan Ekelund. Absinthe as the base (the original recipe was created with Pernod, I substituted St. George), grapefruit juice (I used Oro Blanco instead of pink grapefruit), lime juice, simple syrup, mint, and egg white. Egg white emulsified by hand; I had pretty good luck this time (this was a very fresh egg).

 

Dapper Man Sour (original recipe here, converted to oz in the Kindred database)

 

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The egg white tamed the absinthe quite a bit without covering its flavor. It reminded me of other cocktails marrying absinthe with egg white, for example the Swiss Mist in PDT, although that one has gin as the base and absinthe as an accent. It's a very nice way to enjoy absinthe.

 

Oh, and that made me smile - "I don’t believe in fine straining but if that is how you (the reader) like it I have no objections." So I did not bother double straining.


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#526 KD1191

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 04:20 PM

Another absinthe-focused sour that I'm quite fond of (and which calls specifically for St. George) is the Peychaud Sour:

 

1 oz Peychaud's Bitters

1 oz St. George Absinthe

.75 oz Lemon

.5 oz Simple

1 Egg White

Lemon Twist (Garnish)


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:12 AM

Chris Hannah's Necromancer with absinthe verte (St. George), still water, violet liqueur (R&W), and a few dashes of Peychaud's bitters (optional).

 

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That one was a bit hard to take a first because of its intensity. I liked it better with more dilution from the ice. Basically it's an Absinthe Frappée with violet as the sweetener. It was interesting to see the flavor evolve from all licorice (the Peychaud's reinforcing that first impression), to more floral flavors with the violet helping.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 06:02 PM

That looks more interesting than the corpse reviver variations I've seen using the name.  Same ratios as the Absinthe Frappée?



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 06:11 PM

The book (Absinthe Cocktails, which I recommend if you like absinthe) calls for 1.5 oz absinthe verte, 0.5 oz water (which I would increase to 1 oz), 1/2 oz violet liqueur or creme Yvette (you may have to adjust based on what you are using), and a "garnish" of Peychaud's bitters (1 dash) and flowers.


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Posted Yesterday, 10:46 AM

Trying again to revive the corpse, this time with Greg Best's Re-Animator (not to be confused with Audrey Saunders' creation of the same name). Equal parts absinthe verte (St. George), American dry gin (Blue Coat or Aviation were specified, I used Dorothy Parker), Cointreau, lemon juice (barspoon).

 

Better use an absinthe you really love, because there is a full ounce of it in the drink. There is a hint of louche but barely. The alcohol content is quite high.

 

After the shock of the first sip, you start tasting things other than just the absinthe, although the Cointreau remains remarkably subdued. It's pretty good version of the CR2 on steroids, and a slow sipper for sure.

 

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