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#31 caroline

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Posted 13 October 2003 - 04:16 PM

Irwin, Thanks so much for the information on how plate lunches were done for civilian workers with the military. Salisbury Steak. Container loads of it. Fascinating. You are filling in more of the history of Hawaii's foods than I ever dreamt possible. We have to find some way that people in Hawaii can learn all this,

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#32 hulagirl

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Posted 13 October 2003 - 10:24 PM

I just wanted to put in my two-cents worth. I was born and raised on Oahu as was my mother and father. I remember my mom telling me once that they (her family anyway) became dependent on canned foods such as spam, canned corned beef, vienna sausage during the war with Japan when fresh food and other dry goods were in very short supply. I have very fond memories of my mom packing me a bento lunch with two musubi (rice balls wrapped in nori), scrambled shoyu eggs and fried spam, vienna sausage or shoyu hot dog. Even though I know it's really unhealthy, the smell or occasional taste of it brings back really fond memories of childhood. I must also say that the best way to eat a bento is to spend the whole day at the beach under the hot sun in the salty ocean water, then eat your bento with an ice-cold soda pop! It's the BEST!

#33 alanamoana

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 01:09 PM

As a true howlie I do not fully get it.

:laugh: :laugh: "haole" :laugh: :laugh:

well, i'm only now reading up on this thread and find everyone's information great and fun to read!

agreed that the plate lunch isn't the most healthful thing. i like the korean style plates from palama market, but i tend to share one plate with my mom. there's enough meat in one plate lunch for two meals! i remember being able to eat the whole thing (when i was younger!!). now, the metabolism just doesn't kick in the way it used to :hmmm: .

mac salad isn't my favorite as it usually has too much mayo.

rainbow drive in is great (slush float anyone?)

there's a place at the koko marina shopping center called "loco mocos" i guess it is like l&l and is quickly becoming an up and comer on the chain type plate lunch place. not too bad teri beef.

i too know lots of locals who have very little body fat (a lot of canoe paddler friends) who eat like this regularly. i have no idea what their arteries look like though! just because you look great on the outside doesn't mean you can't drop dead of a heart attack!

#34 skchai

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Posted 16 October 2003 - 01:13 AM

agreed that the plate lunch isn't the most healthful thing.  i like the korean style plates from palama market, but i tend to share one plate with my mom.  there's enough meat in one plate lunch for two meals!  i remember being able to eat the whole thing (when i was younger!!).  now, the metabolism just doesn't kick in the way it used to  :hmmm: .


Palama Market's plate lunch outlet is pretty good - we usually eat there whenever we go to stock up on groceries. That whole Kapalama Mall on Dillingham is going through some pretty major changes. JaJa, which was a pretty good Chinese place, closed down, and was replaced by someplace called "777". Somebody in into lucky numbers, I guess. Haven't had a chance to check it out. A Japanese-style bakery has also opened up next door.

there's a place at the koko marina shopping center called "loco mocos" i guess it is like l&l and is quickly becoming an up and comer on the chain type plate lunch place.  not too bad teri beef.


Hear a lot about up-and-coming places on the Hawai`i Kai side. Don't get to eat over there very often, but lot of my friends are moving there. Any other suggestions in that area - plate lunch-wise, Alanamoana?

And while we're at it, any other Korean plate lunch places people enjoy? We usually go to Ducky's, which is a small, semi-enclosed place near our house in Manoa. They have a nice charcoal grill, and an unbeatable $14.95 family pack special that contains lots of kalbi, fish jun, meat jun, chicken katsu, etc. plus several sides and a mountain of rice. No duck - it's a pun on the owner's name. At night they turn into a "outdoor bar style" establishment (I use the quotes because it's strictly BYOB) selling grilled pork belly, pig's feet, red-hot fish hotpot, and other stuff that's popular with the young Korean crowd.

Or have any favorites when it comes to Okazu-ya style plate lunches? We usually goes to Fukuya's near King and University. Their mochiko chicken is the best. Fried ahi is pretty good, and all kinds of nigiri (musubi) to go with it. Very good vegetable dishes, including kinpira (stir-fried shredded) gobo, stewed Kabocha pumpkin, and whatever else the owners have in mind that day. Who said place lunch couldn't be healthy?

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#35 Sweet Willie

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Posted 22 October 2003 - 07:06 PM

I think L&L can be decent, depending on the outpost.  But it's really just B-grade plate lunch.  It's usually easy to find a place that's significantly better just by asking around.

guess I need to ask, we really enjoy L&L.

We ate multiple meals at various L&L Drive Inns. L&L is a Hawaiian chain that specializes in plate lunches. One of my favorites is the mixed BBQ plate: thin piece of grilled teriyaki steak, small portion of grilled BBQ (teri/shoyu) ribs, and two grilled teriyaki chicken thighs served on two scoops of white rice with a scoop of very good macaroni salad alongside, all for 5 bucks!! My wife would usually have one of the various fresh grilled plate lunches such as MahiMahi for about $6 or the various saimin (noodle) dishes. There are over 50 locations around the islands. See: http://www.lldriveinn.com/
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#36 skchai

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 06:09 PM

Sweet Willy,

L&L is certaintly not a bad establishment. Their quantity/price ratio is among the best, and the quality is O.K. relative to other Honolulu plate lunch places. The knock against them is that they lack any thing distinctive to set them apart from other places, and lack a lot of side dishes other than mac salad. Also, being a large chain, they are always a convenient target for gripes!

By the way, the link you gave seems to lead to a cybersquatter. The url for L&L is http://www.hawaiianbarbecue.com/.

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#37 Sweet Willie

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 07:33 PM

By the way, the link you gave seems to lead to a cybersquatter.  The url for L&L is http://www.hawaiianbarbecue.com/.

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#38 PakePorkChop

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Posted 17 March 2004 - 04:44 AM

aloha, sk!

as to your question #3, new concepts for plate lunches, check out the teppanyaki wagon at:

http://www.hawaii.rr...tmatoaichef.htm

My one reservation is that the chef overcooks the meat more often than he should, but it's a good idea, the flavors are different, and the price is right!

#39 skchai

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Posted 17 March 2004 - 03:32 PM

A big welcome to eGullet, pakeporkchop.

Thanks for the link to the Tony Chang article. I’ve always admired “What's Cooking around Town” at the Hawaii.rr.com site for its great information and stories – and it’s becoming a real resource for the people on this site as well! Would you happen to know how to get copies of his newsletter, "Woktalk"?

The teppanyaki plate lunch idea is a real interesting innovation – it definitely qualifies as “upscale”, although Tae’s seems to have been able to keep the price down to “normal” place lunch levels. I’ll definitely try it next time I head out to Daiei. I was surprised that the potatoes in the steak roll are raw – how do the customers react to that? Are they completely raw or partially cooked? It looks from one of the pictures in the story that they may spend some time on the grill.

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#40 PakePorkChop

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Posted 18 March 2004 - 03:20 PM

aloha, sk!

the shredded potatoes are indeed raw. the potato is place in the center of the beef wafers before the wafers are folded over. the heated meat partially cooks the potato but the potato remains relatively fluffy and crunchy.

my guess is that the combination is well-received, judging by the number of return customers, particularly those ordering in bulk for their office, etc.

to suit my preferences, i always ask that the beef roll be under-done. i know that tae does not favor special orders, but to my mind that's the only way to have beef roll.