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[tryska]

hey! you are right by me!

the kroger on 41 is loads better than the kroger on delk tho. i use it for non-food and package food items when coming back fromt he gym (Crunch). I def prefer the Publix on cumberland. I'm moving from 41 to paces ferry in a couple months and am thrilled that publix is right there..kinda wish the eckerds was a walgreens tho.

Edited by tryska, 23 September 2003 - 11:42 AM.

[-T-]

Ethnic markets: well, I don't know exactly what I mean. Where do you go for  Indian, Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Middle Eastern, etc.? There aren't really any chains, are there? Or do you find what you need at Harry's?

If you're cooking anything Asian, I've always had good luck with the Hoa Binh supermarket on Buford Highway.

I am in search of a goot Mexican/Latin market. I live in Vinings and I've seen several promising ones on South Cobb - but when my mother was in town she checked them out and found them lacking. We were spoiled living in Texas for ten year, I guess. We may have the DFM, but we don't have Fiesta.

I need to be educated in the Harry's appeal. I know that they have everything, but honestly, while I could navigate the DFM with my eyes closed and find everything I need without having to backtrack, Harry's (at least the one up I-75) is a mystery to me. It is impossible to find anything, there is no rhyme or reason to the flow of the store, they'll have the same product in eight different places, but never the same brand... I truly wish it would become a WF where at least it might be a bid more orderly. I'm sure that if I took the time to get to know it, I'd learn to love the nonsensical layout - but for now, I'll stick to the DFM, Kroger, and WF.

[tryska]

*lol* well it's gotten better lately now that there are places you can make fast dashes from. the original harry's (pre-whole-foods) was like being at a carnival freakshow - you entered through one side, wound you way thru everything it had to offer, and came out the other side.

some of that still exists. your best bet to understand hte layout, is to follow the old freakshow route which takes you by produce first, and then into dry goods, then on into frozen, meat counter and seafod...through bakery, dairy, coffee....and past salad bar, ready to eat items. (i think)

[mighty quinn]

new to the gullet- lots of ht's in the tidewater, va area-very big, shiny new places. can't stand farm fresh. everyone knows that food lion is the pits. there is a cool little groc - g.w. marketplace- that has a wonderful deli section and lots of cool foodie-type items. for any texans out there- the heb is the best, especially the marketplce in northwest san antonio. great produce and everything you couls ask for in a singles scene except a bar- but i know that no one would ever go to a store for that

[Foodie_Penguin]

I live in the Triangle, NC and here are my faves grocery stores (chain)-

Harris Teeter if the usual place to shop but I'm getting disappointed with their fresh produce, especially the stuff that gets sprayed with water automatically. The food deteriorates quickly after I get it home.

Kroger sells better pork than HT and my closest branch sells a good range of "natural" foods (more than HT).

I shop at Wholefoods Market for my goat's yoghurt, fruit juice (they have the biggest selection) and most of my fish. I do not buy fresh fish at either HT or Kroger (ocassionally frozen but none fresh).

Costco gets an honorable mention even though my membership's expired. Their food quality, especially meat and fresh produce is superior to any grocery store I've visited in the area. In fact, during the time I had membership, most of what I bought was the food.


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[Varmint]

Welcome to eGullet, FP! Harris Teeter and all the other major grocery stores really do have sucky seafood. Produce is also hit or miss. I find the seafood and meat at Whole Foods quite acceptable, but very overpriced. Thus, when I have the time, I'll get seafood from Earps or Hieronymous. I'd get my meat from Cliff's in Carrboro, if I lived over that way.

[Foodie_Penguin]

Welcome to eGullet, FP!  Harris Teeter and all the other major grocery stores really do have sucky seafood.  Produce is also hit or miss.  I find the seafood and meat at Whole Foods quite acceptable, but very overpriced.  Thus, when I have the time, I'll get seafood from Earps or Hieronymous.  I'd get my meat from Cliff's in Carrboro, if I lived over that way.

I love my seafood (penguin in my username is no coicidence) and I go over to Tom Robinson's in Carrboro when I can get organized enough on a Saturday morning.

I missed going to Cliff's Meat Market in Carrboro by a hair last time I was in Carrboro (going to Tom Robinson's, naturally).



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[chemprof]

I agree joler...Earthfare sux!

When will we get a Whole Foods in GSO!??

Preferably in the crappy Winn-Dixie close to my house that is slooooooowlly dying.

Anne

[joiei]

For my everyday, I shop at Reasor's or Supertarget, although target has a limited selection. For more gourmet stuff and meats I go to Petty's. I use Whole foods and Akins for speciality items only. I avoid Albertsons and the Neighborhood Markets by Walmart, not a good enough selection, Albertsons is way over priced and just nasty, their seafood counters stink. And besides, I hate having to wait to pay or to have to check myself out at higher prices, I am doing their job for free. We have a new market, sort of like an Eatzi's, called Marketplace at Kingspoint. They are out of Rogers, Arkansas and are supposed to open a store in Chicago next. Lots of prepared foods, but they carry a bigger selection of Nueske's so I do not have to order it shipped in. Lots of higher end gourmet items, and a coffee bar that is not Charbucks. Their bread is a dissappointment, it is La Brea brown and sell. Oh well, can't have everything. Marketplace at Pinnacle Place in Rogers

[maf]

I am surprised to read that most seem to favor Publix over Kroger. In Savannah, we have those, Piggly Wiggly, Food Lion and Wal-Mart. The Food Lions here are like everywhere: small, dirty, narrow-aisled and generally preferred by the toothless.

There is a Harris Teeter in Hilton Head, but that's 45 minutes away. I find their stores pleasant but expensive. Good wine selection, too. A few years ago they looked at Savannah and deemed us unworthy, so they would have to be much better to justify a 45 minute trip.

Piggly Wiggly varies greatly, as the newer stores are OK, but the older ones are like a trip back to the 70s, both in appearance and selection. It's the place to go if you need pig's ears, but somehow that makes me doubt the sushi counter. If it weren't for their cool name, I would dismiss them entirely.

Wal-Mart is pretty good for produce and staples, but the meat counter isn't very good and the seafood is worse. I know many people despise Wal-Mart as destroyers of the fabric of American life (fabric now made in China), but they always have frest cilantro, which in a small town makes up for the labor unrest in California.

Now the only real choices here: Kroger and Publix. My surprise at others' comments is that my experience here has been the oppposite. Publix are nice, clean and friendly, but their meat selection is dismal and more expensive than Kroger. I once asked for flank steak and was told they don't carry it. Where are they getting cows with no flank? Is it going to you people in "better" places, or maybe luxury hamburgers for the Atlanta crowd? Although Kroger has raised the price of this excellent cut of meat in the last couple years (to the point where you might as well get a strip steak, but that's another story), at least they have it. Contrary to another post, Kroger here always has "unimproved" pork and chicken, although you do have to pay attention lest you take home the version "enchanced with a solution."

Here's my biggest complaint with Publix: much of their produce is sold on sytrofoam trays wrapped in cellophane. It's not the synthetics that annoy me, although for the record I have nothing against, say, bamboo trays, wax paper and some glue from a tree that was not harmed in its extraction, but sometimes I don't want four zucchini or 1.23 pounds of sugar snap peas. Plus, even though their labor is non-union, it is apparently the job of someone to make sure that one of the five tomatoes so tantalizingly bulging under smell-proof shrink wrap is of suspicious quality. While no melon thumper, I like to see all six sides of the genetically cubic produce that I take home to my decidedly urbane family.

One comment on Ukrops. I was in one several years ago and they sold no alcohol (ethyl, not isopropyl, which while useful, seems to last longer on a per ounce basis). I was told this was because the owners didn't believe in the stuff. Is this true?

Edited by maf, 29 March 2004 - 08:54 AM.

[therese]

The Publix that we use does almost no pre-wrapping of produce. I do think that it depends on what the clientele expects---I've been to Publix stores that didn't have nearly as much variety or high-end stuff as ours does. Publix doesn't rely as heavily on injected meat as Kroger's does.

Of course, I usually just go to Dekalb...

[dscott]

One comment on Ukrops. I was in one several years ago and they sold no alcohol (ethyl, not isopropyl, which while useful, seems to last longer on a per ounce basis). I was told this was because the owners didn't believe in the stuff. Is this true?

That is correct about Ukrop's. They do not sell beer or wine. They're also closed on Sundays and sometimes have signs asking you to go to church. In other words, yes, I think they have something against alcohol.

For some Richmonders, the inability to shop on Sunday combined with the inability to stock our weekly beer allowance is a significant impediment to shopping at Ukrops. On the other hand, lots of people don't seem to mind. Nonetheless, I have, on more than one occasion, found myself looking for beer and wine in Ukrops before I realize that I'm not at Kroger.

One other thing about beer and Ukrop's stores: more often than not, their stores are located in a shopping center with a CVS drug store (which does sell beer and wine and is open on Sundays). I have been told that the Ukrops do this intentionally so that you don't have to leave the shopping center to get your beer.

[pekkle492]

One comment on Ukrops. I was in one several years ago and they sold no alcohol (ethyl, not isopropyl, which while useful, seems to last longer on a per ounce basis). I was told this was because the owners didn't believe in the stuff. Is this true?

That is true -- the Ukrops family is Southern Baptist. Their stores are closed on Sundays and they sell no alcoholic beverages. When I was a kid, I remember a huge sign in one of their stores that urged everyone to go to church on Sunday. I don't know if the signs still exist, but their ban on beer and wine remains.

[dscott]

When I was a kid, I remember a huge sign in one of their stores that urged everyone to go to church on Sunday. I don't know if the signs still exist ...

The signs are still in some, but not all, Ukrop's stores.

[JennotJenn]

I am surprised to read that most seem to favor Publix over Kroger. In Savannah, we have those, Piggly Wiggly, Food Lion and Wal-Mart. The Food Lions here are like everywhere: small, dirty, narrow-aisled and generally preferred by the toothless.

There is a Harris Teeter in Hilton Head, but that's 45 minutes away. I find their stores pleasant but expensive. Good wine selection, too. A few years ago they looked at Savannah and deemed us unworthy, so they would have to be much better to justify a 45 minute trip.

Piggly Wiggly varies greatly, as the newer stores are OK, but the older ones are like a trip back to the 70s, both in appearance and selection. It's the place to go if you need pig's ears, but somehow that makes me doubt the sushi counter. If it weren't for their cool name, I would dismiss them entirely.

Wal-Mart is pretty good for produce and staples, but the meat counter isn't very good and the seafood is worse. I know many people despise Wal-Mart as destroyers of the fabric of American life (fabric now made in China), but they always have frest cilantro, which in a small town makes up for the labor unrest in California.

Now the only real choices here: Kroger and Publix. My surprise at others' comments is that my experience here has been the oppposite. Publix are nice, clean and friendly, but their meat selection is dismal and more expensive than Kroger. I once asked for flank steak and was told they don't carry it. Where are they getting cows with no flank? Is it going to you people in "better" places, or maybe luxury hamburgers for the Atlanta crowd? Although Kroger has raised the price of this excellent cut of meat in the last couple years (to the point where you might as well get a strip steak, but that's another story), at least they have it. Contrary to another post, Kroger here always has "unimproved" pork and chicken, although you do have to pay attention lest you take home the version "enchanced with a solution."

Here's my biggest complaint with Publix: much of their produce is sold on sytrofoam trays wrapped in cellophane. It's not the synthetics that annoy me, although for the record I have nothing against, say, bamboo trays, wax paper and some glue from a tree that was not harmed in its extraction, but sometimes I don't want four zucchini or 1.23 pounds of sugar snap peas. Plus, even though their labor is non-union, it is apparently the job of someone to make sure that one of the five tomatoes so tantalizingly bulging under smell-proof shrink wrap is of suspicious quality. While no melon thumper, I like to see all six sides of the genetically cubic produce that I take home to my decidedly urbane family.

One comment on Ukrops. I was in one several years ago and they sold no alcohol (ethyl, not isopropyl, which while useful, seems to last longer on a per ounce basis). I was told this was because the owners didn't believe in the stuff. Is this true?

Believe it or not, Food Lion has improved dramatically here in Raleigh. When I lived in Winston-Salem, the Food Lion nearest us so was filthy they eventually shut it down (I wouldn't even buy cat litter there...). However, in recent months, I've started going to the new, improved Lion by our apartment.

I'm starting to prefer it over the Teeter (at least over the Teeter in Olde Raleigh Village). After all, they carry Pudding Pops.

Since I buy my meat and dairy at Whole Foods (I have weird issues with meat...if I knew of a good kosher butcher nearby I'd go there instead...), so Food Lion wins only in the non-perishables dept. Can't help you out with any Lion/Teeter quality comparisons on meat.

I don't buy much fish. When I do, it's Earps or Whole Foods. I've had some problems w/Whole Foods fish freshness in the past, so I'm still wary of buying from them.

[JennotJenn]

I am surprised to read that most seem to favor Publix over Kroger. In Savannah, we have those, Piggly Wiggly, Food Lion and Wal-Mart. The Food Lions here are like everywhere: small, dirty, narrow-aisled and generally preferred by the toothless.

Believe it or not, Food Lion has improved dramatically here in Raleigh. When I lived in Winston-Salem, the Food Lion nearest us so was filthy they eventually shut it down (I wouldn't even buy cat litter there...). However, in recent months, I've started going to the new, improved Lion by our apartment.

I'm starting to prefer it over the Teeter (at least over the Teeter in Olde Raleigh Village). After all, they carry Pudding Pops.

Since I buy my meat and dairy at Whole Foods (I have weird issues with meat...if I knew of a good kosher butcher nearby I'd go there instead...), so Food Lion wins only in the non-perishables dept. Can't help you out with any Lion/Teeter quality comparisons on meat.

I don't buy much fish. When I do, it's Earps or Whole Foods. I've had some problems w/Whole Foods fish freshness in the past, so I'm still wary of buying from them.

[robyn]

I didn't see any Florida responses here. Publix is the hands-down winner in Florida. Not because it is outstanding in any category - but because it is the best overall compared to the others. Note that we have the following markets within 10 minutes of my house: 2 Publix markets, Winn-Dixie, Food Lion, Harris Teeter and Fresh Market. Costco and Sams are 20 minutes away.

Harris Teeter and Fresh Market might be more competitive with Publix had they opened larger stores here (both were timid in terms of their expansions into Florida).

I have in fact spoken with the manager of the Publix I usually shop at - and he thanks his lucky stars that Harris Teeter opened a small footprint store here - the kind of store where you can never find the kind of paper towels you want to buy. As it stands - about 60 cents of my grocery dollar goes to Publix - the remaining 40 cents is divided among Harris Teeter, Fresh Market and Costco. Robyn

[Random Alias]

Here in Raleigh, Harris Teeter for everyday.
Whole Foods for seafood, cheese, and assorted snobby stuff.

Back in Seattle, Larry's Market.
Back in Florida, Publix.

[deibu]

Here in Columbia (SC) it is pretty much the same as maf said in Savannah... Kroger, Publix, Food Lion, Piggly Wiggly, Bi-Lo, Winn-Dixie. In the early 90's, Bruno's came and went in a couple of years, then Harris Teeter moved into their stores in the mid-90's, but ended up pulling out and all the stores are now Piggly Wigglys. Harris Teeter is still in Charleston though. Publix definitely has the best stores here, hands down. Later this year, they are even opening one downtown in the old Confederate printing plant that has been abandoned for decades.

[joiei]

When I was home recently for a wedding, Publix is apparently moving into the Florida Panhandle in a big way. They not only have a new store at Sandestin Beach resort, but they have a big new store just north of the firestation in Seagrove beach, (although Arvida would probably perfer if we refered to it as Watercolor). So much for the little store at Blue Mountain Beach that I used to live behind.

[robyn]

When I was home recently for a wedding,  Publix is apparently moving into the Florida Panhandle in a big way.  They not only have a new store at Sandestin Beach resort,  but they have a big new store just north of the firestation in Seagrove beach,  (although Arvida would probably perfer if we refered to it as Watercolor).  So much for the little store at Blue Mountain Beach that I used to live behind.

Publix is moving aggressively everywhere in Florida. It puts up stores in places before the houses are even built! Robyn

[Mabelline]

Doesn't anybody recall the Blue Laws in Texas? You gotta wait till 6 p.m. on Sunday, people were not so holy, the law told them...give me a break...the people who made money on Sundays were those that bought some cases and bottles Saturday night!

[stephenc]

Back in college, we would rely pretty much on Kro-jay when we were feeling rich, and Food Lion when we were feeling poor.

[BeJam]

Doesn't anybody recall the Blue Laws in Texas? You gotta wait till 6 p.m. on Sunday, people were not so holy, the law told them...give me a break...the people who made money on Sundays were those that bought some cases and bottles Saturday night!

Maybe sunday was the day to recover. When I spent a summer there in the 90s, there were still drive up liquor stores that sold drinks to go in plastic cups with straws and single beers in little paper bags. Everyone in the car could have an open drink except the driver. In fact the office I was working in had several bottles of single malt in bottom desk drawers for regularly scheduled 3:30 afternoon meetings. Come to think of it I've got a story about an city councilman in Alabama named Jimmy Dean (no joke) and the bottles of clear liquid he kept in his trunk.

By the way, Brunos in B'ham, Alabama has an upscale sister called Vincents resplete with its own sommelier and great produce. On the flip side of the scale, in addition to the filthy Winn Dixie and Piggly Wiggly, there was Western Market. Western meats were regulary expired and its produce looked like it was trucked in from California on the back of a pick up over a month before. But they had smaller stores (a great convenience) and sold single pieces of cake and generally had a good beer selection.

[Chops]

Has anyone been to the Durham co-op grocery store? I read about it awhile back, but do not know where it is or if it is worth it.

[YWalker]

Has anyone been to the Durham co-op grocery store? I read about it awhile back, but do not know where it is or if it is worth it.

I know where it is, but I haven't been in there yet. It's on Chapel Hill Street.

If you take the Durham Freeway north from I-40, take the Chapel Hill Street exit. Make a right onto Chapel Hill Street at the top of the ramp. Go through a stoplight on the other side of the overpass; go up another block and go through a second stoplight, and it will be on about the second block on your left (before you get to the third stoplight.)

[Foodie_Penguin]

Has anyone been to the Durham co-op grocery store?  I read about it awhile back, but do not know where it is or if it is worth it.

I know where it is, but I haven't been in there yet. It's on Chapel Hill Street.

If you take the Durham Freeway north from I-40, take the Chapel Hill Street exit. Make a right onto Chapel Hill Street at the top of the ramp. Go through a stoplight on the other side of the overpass; go up another block and go through a second stoplight, and it will be on about the second block on your left (before you get to the third stoplight.)

Yes, I've been there a few times. I've even considered getting membership.

The reasons I chose not to were:
not entirely comfortable about parking in their parking lot (beside the store)
store looks chaotic/disorganized
some of the fresh produce doesn't look so fresh

That's pretty much it.






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