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Posted 04 June 2003 - 02:52 AM
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#2
Posted 04 June 2003 - 04:06 AM
#3
Posted 04 June 2003 - 07:39 AM
The daube sounds delicious. I can't believe people are removing salmon skin. Unless you're making a mousse, that's the best part, and you'd only make a mousse from parts of the fish that are too thin to cook with crispy skin. Right?
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#4
Posted 04 June 2003 - 08:35 AM
#5
Posted 04 June 2003 - 08:46 AM
And thank-you, Louisa
One question: when you plated the beef on top of the onions didn't that make them soggy as juices came off the dead cow?
cheerio
J
#6
Posted 04 June 2003 - 08:49 AM
I thought the cool name was "Chin Sin". Right out of a comic book. There was a G-Trane character on Law and Order a couple nights ago...Does the person named G have a cool nickname like "G-money" or "G-fric"? Actually, I guess if your name is G, that is your cool nickname.
Another great article, Louisa. It actually sounds like a lot of fun.
#7
Posted 04 June 2003 - 08:50 AM
#8
Posted 04 June 2003 - 10:27 AM
#9
Posted 04 June 2003 - 12:06 PM
yea, i never used to like fish skin. now, along with the fat, it's one of my favorirte parts.The daube sounds delicious. I can't believe people are removing salmon skin. Unless you're making a mousse, that's the best part, and you'd only make a mousse from parts of the fish that are too thin to cook with crispy skin. Right?
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#10
Posted 05 June 2003 - 03:22 PM
mamster, oh you've just set me back on my re-conditioning with G. He does not need to be told he or his name are cool. But yes, he actually does have a nickname - one that Chef Thivet gave him: Romarin - Rosemary in French. Because he was always asking for it with every dish. Not cool maybe but - uncharacteristically for him - cute. And yes, you can use good salmon trimmings for mousse, but of course in French haute cuisine, why not puree a whole filet! In Basic we made a salmon mousse and my hand still cramps from the memory of scraping that sucker through a tami.
KNorthrup, some of my classmates were going out right after. And most just don't have the fridge - much less freezer - space to keep all the food we make. Most are here by themselves and don't have a hungry sister and dog to feed the way I do. But it was pretty ridiculous that day. Like I'd burgled a butcher.
Jon, oh puh-leeze! Soggy? As if! First of all, the beef was perfectly seared; secondly, I let it rest, and then I blotted it on paper before plating on the onions - a very good habit to get into especially with fish; finally when Chef Thivet sliced into the beef, then the juices were released on cue!
nightscotsman, you should see Chin Sin in civilian clothes and shades - pure Japanimation inspiration. And it actually is a lot of fun.
hollywood, I get my final exam grades at graduation. If you don't pass - and that has happened - they call you right after your exam to warn you not to show up. This happened to a girl last session - and her friends had to call the paramedics because she hyperventilated and passed out.
JosephB, welcome to eGullet - and thank you! I promise to post the recipe very soon. Basically you take a duck breast, trim off most of the skin, wrap it in a sea salt studded bread crust and bake it.
herbacidal, fish fat?! I don't know this! Give it up! What kind of fish and how? And I credit my mom for my love of fish skin. She makes the most amazing whole, wok-fried, gorgeous, red snapper.
#11
Posted 05 June 2003 - 10:18 PM
Merde!hollywood, I get my final exam grades at graduation. If you don't pass - and that has happened - they call you right after your exam to warn you not to show up. This happened to a girl last session - and her friends had to call the paramedics because she hyperventilated and passed out.
#12
Posted 06 June 2003 - 01:06 AM
Secondly, a few marginal questions:
What is "to chinois"? I never knew "chinois" could be something other than a noun or adjective.
I gather a "mandoline," in this case, is not a musical instrument but a peeler or some other kind of cutting implement. Would you or someone else like to describe it more exactly, please?
The points are the tops of the asparagi, right? I love them, don't you? Are they removed just for looks?
Oh, by the way, I love Daube.
[edit: "or" instead of "are." Sheesh!]
Edited by Pan, 06 June 2003 - 03:31 AM.
#13
Posted 06 June 2003 - 01:50 AM
To chinois is probably multilingually grammatically incorrect. When I say "to chinois" I mean to pass through a chinois/a conical fine-mesh sieve - supposedly named so for its resemblance to a stereotypical Chinese hat.
And yes, in the kitchen a mandoline is a slicer. Here's one at Williams-Sonoma. The mandoline frightens me more than any other tool in the kitchen - especially the ones at Cordon Bleu which have long lost their hand guards - forget about safety gloves - so I refuse to use them and always use my own.
And no, sorry, when I said points on the asparagus, I did not mean the tips or heads - I meant the very small, thin, pointed flaps around the stalk of the aspargus itself. You've probably never even noticed these things - I never really did - much less thought they were so offensive - as French chefs do - that they needed to be so rigorously removed. And I'm actually more of a stalk eater - asparagus, broccoli, etc. - it's a texture thing.
#14
Posted 06 June 2003 - 08:24 AM
That's a beautiful mandolin on the Williams Sonoma page. I'm curious about what kind of mandolins the school offers and what kind you use yourself. I'd long lusted after a nice stainless steel one like that until I was told by a couple of professional chefs that their kitchen has one like that, but it's in a cabinet somewhere and no one uses it. All the cooks use a cheap plastic Japanese model (stainless steel blade) called a Benriner. I went out and bought one for about $29 and it's terrific. I see my favorite local cookwares place now had it for $25 and they do mail order. Haven't really done any damage to myself, but my wife has cut herself several times and is always warning me to be careful. Here are links to the Benriner Mandolin page and the Broadway Panhandler home page. New Yorkers should note that tomorrow and Sunday, June 7 & 8, they're having their annual yard sale.And yes, in the kitchen a mandoline is a slicer. Here's one at Williams-Sonoma. The mandoline frightens me more than any other tool in the kitchen - especially the ones at Cordon Bleu which have long lost their hand guards - forget about safety gloves - so I refuse to use them and always use my own.
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#15
Posted 06 June 2003 - 02:57 PM
#16
Posted 08 June 2003 - 09:51 AM
mags, sorry! Ooh, you're really not going to like it then when I tell you the next day I snagged some crispy skinned duck breasts from some of the Basic students - with Sauce a l'Orange! And yes, those midday breaks, now I understand why one sees people napping in parks all over Paris - that will soon be me! And thanks!
#17
Posted 13 June 2003 - 06:36 AM
One important question: Why soak the potatoes in port? Doesn't it make them too sweet?
I read the article over my juice and coffee breakfast and felt like taking the next plane to share your leftovers.
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Posted 14 June 2003 - 03:58 PM
#19
Posted 16 June 2003 - 04:19 AM
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#20
Posted 16 June 2003 - 04:46 AM
Now, it's our turn to hardly bear the suspense. As I write, it is 1:45 P.M. in Paris. I'd wish you good luck, and I suppose I can, on general principles, regardless of what response you got from ADPA.
#21
Posted 16 June 2003 - 04:48 AM
What does a chef's resume look like in France? And does it have the same format as one for American consumption (gee, what a lame unintentional pun)?
#22
Posted 16 June 2003 - 05:16 AM
Sounds like you had almost the same ingredients as me for the cuisine final! I rolled my lamb with the breadcrumbs and herbs inside - and thankfully it was also the desired shade of pink!
Congrats on a job well done and on graduating! I'll catch up soon...
~Borojo~
#23
Posted 16 June 2003 - 06:46 AM
apart from my perpetual congratulations
Fingers crossed (and remember the little people)!
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#24
Posted 16 June 2003 - 09:16 AM
Congrats on the diploma!
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Posted 16 June 2003 - 11:09 AM
#26
Posted 17 June 2003 - 05:07 AM
sandra, thanks! That sounds so good! I was thinking about doing a roast too but have always had more consistent results with chops - and I do like that bone. How's sugar work treating you?!
Moby, you are too kind - and too funny - I am a little people!
alacarte - yah, me neither!
hollywood, oh my cooking is much more dramatic. Thanks so much - and I'm afraid the thought has crossed my mind to try to do both.
#27
Posted 17 June 2003 - 10:56 PM
Ugh! No relevant anti-discrimination rules? And what are they looking for?Pan, thank you! In France - as in most of the rest of the world - they expect curriculum vitaes and not resumes from everyone including chefs - though not usually from lowly stagiaires - with age, marital status, number of kids, and photo. I suspect during the interviews they estimate weight and measurements.
But what happened with the stage??!!!
#28
Posted 18 June 2003 - 03:30 AM
Edited by fresco, 18 June 2003 - 04:36 AM.
#29
Posted 19 June 2003 - 07:53 AM
fresco, thank you. And yes, the diploma's big. I was just thinking that it will cost a fortune if I ever want to get it framed. Maybe I'll magnet it onto a big walk-in fridge door someday. And thanks, I do hope I get to do both.
#30
Posted 23 June 2003 - 09:10 PM
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