212 replies to this topic

[MatthewB]

Anchor Steam has non-SF beer?

Huh? No, I said it was from San Fran...

I like Anchor Steam, too. I just always thought it was *only* from SF.

You're confusin' me, awbrig.

[Jason Perlow]

But isnt Colorado Coors Country?

Yes, I believe you are correct...don't particulary like that either.

The company was founded in Golden, CO in 1874 and is still headquartered there. There was a great episode of Modern Marvels recently on the History Channel that chronicled the whole history of beer in the US, with the formation of AB, Coors, Miller, etc. Very interesting stuff.

[awbrig]

I like Anchor Steam, too. I just always thought it was *only* from SF.

You're confusin' me, awbrig.

I gotcha now. Like as opposed to the Anchor Steam from Jersey...

I just said"from San Fran" because most of the previous posts were saying where the beer is from. But then again, not everyone is as smart as you...

[elyse]

Matthew, awbrig's too nice to torture.

[MatthewB]

Matthew, awbrig's too nice to torture.

That wasn't torture.

I seriously wondered if Anchor Steam was brewing elsewhere. I don't read the labels that closely.

[elyse]

I thought you were being facetious.

[Rich Pawlak]

Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America

Isn't there a 120 minute IPA and a 90 minute IPA produced out of Connecticut or Delaware that is suppose to be the shit??

Dogfish head Brewing from Rehoboth, DE, produces a 60-Min IPA, a 90-Min IPA and supposedly soon, a 120-Min. IPA. I have had both the 60 and the 90, and both are quite good, really riuch and full in the mouth, but I still think Victory Hop Devil IS the balls.

[pixelchef]

Moosehead!

[maryland crab]

Yards ESA from Philadelphia, on the handpump at McMenamin's Tavern in the Mt Airy section of Philly.

Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America

Bell's Oberon from Michigan

Tremont Ale from Boston

Sly Fox Pils  and Gang Aftly Scotch Ale from Phoenixville, PA

Troegs Hopback Amber from Harrisburg, PA, on the handpump at The Standard Tap in Philly

"Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America"

Just returned to from my monthly run for beer and wine and, lo and behold, the Victory Hop Devil IPA has appeared in our beer and wine store in Maryland. I picked up a six ($6.49) and will try it as soon as I can sit out on the deck in the SUNLIGHT and enjoy it. Thanks for the suggestion and can't wait to try it. I do love IPA's.

[winodj]

MassMarket Canadian: Labatts
MassMarket American: Rolling Rock
MassMarket Lowball: Red Dog
MassMarket German: Warsteiner
Regionals: KC - Boulevard
Berlin - Berliner Kindl Weisse

[elyse]

winodj, on your travels, drink lots of Budvar, Pillsner Urquel, and Hefewizen!

[malarkey]

Yards ESA from Philadelphia, on the handpump at McMenamin's Tavern in the Mt Airy section of Philly.

Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America

oh god, you guys have McMenamin's back there now? I'm sorry..

I'll put Diamond Knot IPA, brewed in Mukilteo WA up to your Victory Hop Devil anyday It IS the shit.

[malarkey]

Belgian beers....particularly Hoegaarden.

If you like Hoegaarden, you should try La Chouffe Golden. ooo la la!

[Rich Pawlak]

Yards ESA from Philadelphia, on the handpump at McMenamin's Tavern in the Mt Airy section of Philly.

Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America

oh god, you guys have McMenamin's back there now? I'm sorry..

I'll put Diamond Knot IPA, brewed in Mukilteo WA up to your Victory Hop Devil anyday It IS the shit.

Thankfully McMenamin's Tavern is no relation to the Portland, Pac West chain of brewpubs, but I'd still like to visit them whenever I get out that way.

[Nick]

Harpoon IPA, brewed in Windsor, VT.

[maryland crab]

Yards ESA from Philadelphia, on the handpump at McMenamin's Tavern in the Mt Airy section of Philly.

Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America

Bell's Oberon from Michigan

Tremont Ale from Boston

Sly Fox Pils  and Gang Aftly Scotch Ale from Phoenixville, PA

Troegs Hopback Amber from Harrisburg, PA, on the handpump at The Standard Tap in Philly

"Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America"

Just returned to from my monthly run for beer and wine and, lo and behold, the Victory Hop Devil IPA has appeared in our beer and wine store in Maryland. I picked up a six ($6.49) and will try it as soon as I can sit out on the deck in the SUNLIGHT and enjoy it. Thanks for the suggestion and can't wait to try it. I do love IPA's.

Just poured a Victory Hop Devil into a very chilled glass and it was outstanding. Thanks for the tip - probably would not have tried it otherwise. For those who like lots of hops as I do, it was well worth the 6 1/2 bucks. Will definately keep several sixes in the frig.

[malachi]

Not to be a bastard or anything, but you should really avoid serving good beer in a chilled glass. As the beer hits the chilled (or "frosted") glass, condensation will occur which will dilute your beer and thus your appreciation of its flavor. In addition, the optimal temperature to taste a beer, while depending upon the style of beer, is invariably higher than the temperature of a chilled glass (the one exception being beers like Coors that you'd be better off not tasting). When you pour the perfect temperature beer into a cold glass, the result is a beer that is too cold to taste well. Beer tends to develop more flavour, and more complexity of flavour, at a higher temperature than what is usually served here in the US.

For what it's worth, and to give you an idea of what I'm talking about... optimal serving temp for strong beers (barleywines, tripels, vintage ales etc.) is between 55F and 60F, while you're best off tasting ordinary ales (IPAs, dobbelbocks, lambics, stouts, etc.) at between 50F and 55F and only the lightest beers (lagers, pilsners, wheat beers, etc) should be served at a refrigerated temperature (between 45F and 50F). General rule of thumb is that the higher the ABV, the higher the serving temp and vice versa. In any case, however, the lowest you should taste a good beer is at around 45F.

[elyse]

I like highly chilled beers.

[Rich Pawlak]

Yards ESA from Philadelphia, on the handpump at McMenamin's Tavern in the Mt Airy section of Philly.

Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America

Bell's Oberon from Michigan

Tremont Ale from Boston

Sly Fox Pils  and Gang Aftly Scotch Ale from Phoenixville, PA

Troegs Hopback Amber from Harrisburg, PA, on the handpump at The Standard Tap in Philly

"Victory Hop Devil, from PA, perhaps the best IPA made in America"

Just returned to from my monthly run for beer and wine and, lo and behold, the Victory Hop Devil IPA has appeared in our beer and wine store in Maryland. I picked up a six ($6.49) and will try it as soon as I can sit out on the deck in the SUNLIGHT and enjoy it. Thanks for the suggestion and can't wait to try it. I do love IPA's.

Just poured a Victory Hop Devil into a very chilled glass and it was outstanding. Thanks for the tip - probably would not have tried it otherwise. For those who like lots of hops as I do, it was well worth the 6 1/2 bucks. Will definately keep several sixes in the frig.

I dunno about that chilled glass thing; as a rule, it's not conducive to appreciating the beer. I find a chilled glass harshens most beers, gives them a metallic twist, plus the condensation that eventually forms will dilute the beer and not give you the beer as it was intended.

Edited by Rich Pawlak, 14 June 2003 - 12:39 AM.

[elyse]

Who cares if that's the way you like it?

[Jinmyo]

Pilsner Urquell. Newscastle. Smithwick's. Presidente (Dominican pilsner). Asahi dry.

But only in summer.



I agree with both malachi's bastardity and elyse's statement above.

[elyse]

Oh Jin, you're a doll!

[Kenk]

My favorite is;
St Ambroise Oatmeal Stout from McAuslan breweries in Montreal.
Nice dark chocolate espresso full taste.
The head is a nice brown colour.
Makes Guinness taste like a light beer.

www.mcauslan.com/en/products/stastout.html
www.beeradvocate.com/top_beers.php?id=13

[ledervin]

Sierra pale ale...is the classic micro brew....easy to get...

Great hoppy beer: Hop Pocket Ale....mmmmmmmmhhhh smell that baby...

greatest pilsner/crap beer: Old Milwaukee

Always have some kind and shit beer in the fridge....but keep em seperated...


Another awesome new micro beer from N.J.: Hop Hazard: unlike some other beers with warning hop signs, this one stands true.

Acme Pale Ale: great more fruity beer out of california,


drink up'

[Rich Pawlak]

Sierra pale ale...is the classic micro brew....easy to get...

Great hoppy beer:  Hop Pocket Ale....mmmmmmmmhhhh smell that baby...

greatest pilsner/crap beer: Old Milwaukee

Always have some kind and shit beer in the fridge....but keep em seperated...


Another awesome new micro beer from N.J.: Hop Hazard: unlike some other beers with warning hop signs, this one stands true.

Acme Pale Ale: great more fruity beer out of california,


drink up'

Is ACME still around? I thouygh they went out of business a few years ago.. I used to love their beers, when I could find them.

[malachi]

ACME still exists. Our regional distributor carries the IPA, the Pale Ale and the Brown Ale.

[Foam Pants]

I used to be a big fan of Newcastle. Then, one day, I got an incredibly skunky bottle and I haven't been back. I adore Dundee Honey Brown. I have also had a lot of Rolling Rock. A friend calls it the Ham and Bean since the first wiff and mouthfull taste just like the dish.

Since moving, I have acquired a taste for Alaska ESB. I took my dad on a tour of the brewery last summer and we both ended up getting tipsy at the tasting bar. Embarrassed my mother and my boyfriend. I think it helped them bond.

[reddevil]

Belgian beers....particularly Hoegaarden.

If you like Hoegaarden, you should try La Chouffe Golden. ooo la la!

Will look out for that one. Recently tried Bruges Tarwebier. Mmm, mmm, mmm. Smooth, white and lovely.

[mogsob]

It's a hot Parisian evening, and I'm sipping a cool Kronenbourg...

With all the truly great beer brewed in France, it is a shame that this is your standard bearer. Sort of like Stella and Belgium.

Here's a question: why don't any of the great microbrewers in the States (e.g., Rogue) make bottle conditioned beers?

I think the best bottled beer to be had is Green King's Abbot Ale.

[theakston]

Here's a question:  why don't any of the great microbrewers in the States (e.g., Rogue) make bottle conditioned beers?

Actually a lot of them do. Several of the Victory ales are bottle conditioned (Golden Monkey, V10 / V12, Grand Cru). As are many Dogfish head ales, Allagash, Ommegang's ales, Bear Republic ales etc. to name but a few.
Even Sierra Nevada Pale has some bottle conditioning!

I think they are becoming more widespread now that people are getting more used to the idea of living beer as opposed to pasteurized filtered crap.