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Iron Chef America (Part 2)


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#361 Gifted Gourmet

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 10:42 AM

By the way - when Chef Blais came by, he was wearing a t-shirt that said "I heart Mayonnaise"...wonder if anyone knows where to find one like that?  Would wear it PROUDLY!!!

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here you are! the shirt of your dreams! :wink:
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#362 Lawen

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 09:27 PM

Great interview, I'm really excited to see this episode on the air. Chef Blais is spectacular, I had the opportunity to eat at Blais a couple of times before it (sadly) closed and both meals were incredible. I only recently found out that he's cooking at One:Midtown and have made a mental note to get over there as soon as I can. Guess I better hurry before ICA airs and it becomes impossible to get a table.

BTW: Hi GG! Long time no talk. :smile:

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Posted 07 March 2006 - 08:16 AM

When the date nears, I will post it here and then we can prepare ourselves by dining with him at One Midtown. You will be told well in advance, fear not! :wink: The schedule is not on their website yet and I rather imagine that Blais will let us know as well.
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:43 PM

Melissa you did not ask the most important question--at least for most of the men on this board--is Cat Cora as hot in person as she appears on television? ":^)
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Posted 14 March 2006 - 12:25 PM

I didn't get a chance to meet Cat Cora. But Mr. Batali is very handsome.
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Posted 14 March 2006 - 02:19 PM

I didn't get a chance to meet Cat Cora. But Mr. Batali is very handsome.

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You obviously had a few drinks before the competition.

Looking forward to seeing your mug on TV.

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Posted 11 May 2006 - 02:11 PM

The Wed. night ICA (repeated Sunday) put Bobby Flay against Ralph Padamo. Flay won easily. Padamo looked familar to me, then I remembered him as a contestant in last year's Gordon Ramsay show, 'Hell's Kitchen" . Was he the runner up then? He seems to be moving along pretty quickly, from a lowly grunt contest to the prestigious ICA! :cool:
There was even a 1 second appearance by Ralph in a spot for a repeat of the Hell series starting soon.

Anyone notice this?

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Posted 11 May 2006 - 02:38 PM

Whatever happened to the guy who won? He supposedly took a job with Ramsey instead of getting the restaurant, but he's dropped off the face of the earth, unless he is still slamming polates in London...
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Posted 11 May 2006 - 02:48 PM

I imagine he is working his ass off for Ramsey at the moment and thats why he has such a low profile...
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Posted 11 May 2006 - 03:40 PM

I was just wondering if Iron Chef America is aired in Japan? :hmmm:

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:28 AM

I was quite surprised when I heard that Ralph would be a contestant. While they portrayed him as a "highly sought after NY caterer" in reality he owns a deli/meat market in Sag Harbor and does some catering on the side - and is certainly not one of the top caterers in either the Hampton's or NYC. Ralph is a really nice guy who runs a good deli (he takes your order and makes your egg sandwich in the AM) and seems to be a capable chef. However, he is so far away from the caliber of chef that ICA generally has (certainly in terms of experience, reputation, credibility, etc.)- that it is amazing he made it onto the show.

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 07:37 AM

Yeah, it makes you wonder how the Food Channel puts together their entertainment.

Last night's repeat of the Ramsay series (at least a year old) showed Ralph as a domineering, flirting, egocentric, and pedestrian team leader. But the Food Network has chosen to capitalise on his commercial value, or perhaps give Flay an easy win after the controversial tie with Susar Lee.
(Lee and some critics felt the judges were pro-Flay).

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 12:37 PM

I was just wondering if Iron Chef America is aired in Japan? :hmmm:

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I'd bet good money that the Japanese would not tolerate such programming junk. -Dick

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 05:48 PM

I was just wondering if Iron Chef America is aired in Japan? :hmmm:

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I'd bet good money that the Japanese would not tolerate such programming junk. -Dick

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You are kidding, right? Haven't you seen some of the original Japanese programming that airs on Spike TV (I think it's Spike). The stunt shows that make Fear Factor look like Masterpiece Theatre??? I know that it is cool for Americans to trash ourselves, but keep in mind that we didn't create crap entertainment. Karaoke is, I think, a Japanese creation and Reality TV is a British import.

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:05 PM

I know that it is cool for Americans to trash ourselves, but keep in mind that we didn't create crap entertainment.  Karaoke is, I think, a Japanese creation and Reality TV is a British import.

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:15 PM

I know that it is cool for Americans to trash ourselves, but keep in mind that we didn't create crap entertainment.  Karaoke is, I think, a Japanese creation and Reality TV is a British import.

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Thank you....

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I think lowbrow entertainment is pretty much universal. (or at least global)

After all, around half the population has below average brows.

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Posted 16 May 2006 - 07:17 AM

Whatever happened to the guy who won? He supposedly took a job with Ramsey instead of getting the restaurant, but he's dropped off the face of the earth, unless he is still slamming polates in London...

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Michael Wray is planning to open LolaPop in Las Vegas, this fall apparently. He also makes and sells his own knives via his website, www.skullandcleavers.com (also on his hand if you forget where you read this). A new season starts June 12th, the prize is a head chef position and an undisclosed stake in a Las Vegas restaurant in the Red Rock Casino Resort Spa. The $2 million restaurant stake still lays unclaimed. This according to Restaurant Hospitality magazine, May 2006.

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Posted 16 May 2006 - 01:58 PM

I was just wondering if Iron Chef America is aired in Japan? :hmmm:

SB (dubbed into pidgin Japanese, of course!) :blink:

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I'd bet good money that the Japanese would not tolerate such programming junk. -Dick

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Yes, it airs in Japan.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 03:41 PM

"Lee and some critics felt the judges were pro-Flay"

aren't they always? i don't watch the show religiously, but it seems to me that flay always does the same old same old and BARELY eeks out a win. how? i don't know. they seem to slam him much more than the challenger. ironically, they seem to complain about the meats being under/overcoked.

has flay ever lost?

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 05:14 PM

"Lee and some critics felt the judges were pro-Flay"

aren't they always? i don't watch the show religiously, but it seems to me that flay always does the same old same old and BARELY eeks out a win. how? i don't know. they seem to slam him much more than the challenger. ironically, they seem to complain about the meats being under/overcoked.

has flay ever lost?

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Yep, he's 7-4-2. Not counting ties, he's tied at the top with Batali.
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Posted 29 May 2006 - 05:55 AM

Does anyone know when the episodes with challengers Rick Tramonto and Homaru Cantu will air?

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 05:18 PM

Another repeat last night, but instructive. Mario Batali faced Chef Desfraines (I have have probably mangled the name), using live tilapia. Mario won, not by a large margin, but mostly on taste. The challenger used several high-tech techniques, such as a controlled-temperature water circulator, a hand-held extruder, sous vide, a chemical glue to attach two types of seafood, and xanthan gum, to thicken a watery green sauce.
Mario depended on good cooking and well flavoured finishing.

Makes me wonder if the the new techniques are really worthwhile, or a flash in the pan.

#383 Joisey

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Posted 23 June 2006 - 02:01 PM

I remember seeing that Batali/DuFresne episode when it first aired and expecting Mario to administer a big whupping on him. I'm not a fan of molecular cooking by any stretch and pretty much condsidered WD-50s menu BS. However, as the battle went on I thought some of the stuff Wylie was doing was kind of cool (especially the Tilapia Noodles). By the end when judging came around I said to my wife that I thought the judges weren't giving him as much of a chance as they should. I've put my skepticism of Wylie's style on hold for the most part since. What always strikes me about Mario is how well-rounded he is, cuisine-wise...he can do any style pretty much effortlessly, something I can't say about Bobby. To be honest, I haven't watched Iron Chef since the ridiculous "Battle Hamburger" with Flay and Kerry Simon...I mean, I know Food TV is dumbing it down but come on, IC is the last vestige of anything interesting on that network. I guess that's over with now.

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Posted 23 June 2006 - 03:54 PM

Wow thats too bad, I loved battle hamburger, it was fun to see what they do with an "everyday" ingredient...I would have loved to have been a judge on that one!
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Posted 23 June 2006 - 05:10 PM

I enjoyed the hamburger battle as well. We were able to eat a replica of the meal last October
at a guest dinner by Kerry Simon at (then) Kahala Mandarin Oriental Hotel. It was really good.
Besides, his opponent was NOT Flay, it was Cat Cora with only 1/10 of a point deciding the
winner. A hui hou :wink:
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 01:56 AM

Anyone catch the Puff Pastry episode? The judging was hysterical...

Cora vs. Michael Psilakis. I liked the show just on account of my love of puff pastry, but man oh man -- Steingarten was in rare form! It was magnificent. Not only did he get into repeated squabbles with both of the other judges, he even started tangling with Chef Cora.

First off, he made some comment about how it might be a good idea to say a few words about whether the food actually tasted good or not, rather than vexing on about composition and presentation and balances and contrast etc... Ted Allen -- the Queer Eye food guy -- shot back with sarcasm: something about how good he thought the dish tasted, and that such a great word-smith as Steingarten would find his response adequate, or something to that effect. Steingarten's facial expressions were priceless. The editing was just perfect, too. Allen continued harping on the point, with every dish served after that point too. There was much eye-rolling... Really funny stuff.

Then, the third judge (I forget her name) asked about the sauce, and when the chef explained that it was just Béchamel, she ooh'ed and aah'ed about how great it was. Steingarten just cut her off at the knees... I guess she wasn't too knowledgeable, and perhaps shouldn't have been a judge, but man, Steingarten just burned her: "Praising the Béchamel sauce is like applauding the chef for using a knife and fork!" Allen tried coming to her rescue, and said they were there to judge the food and not judge the other judges, but Steingarten wouldn't have none of it. Of course he was there to judge the other judges; he was there to judge everything. He was like a drunk soccer hooligan: "Errr, ya foookers -- I'll take the lot of youse!"

The poor woman didn't dare say much for while after that one, except how nice things tasted. Then she made the mistake of complaining that while this dish was very nice, it was too rich... This was the second time she had made such a comment, and that was enough for Steingarten, who laid into her that if it was too rich, why didn't she just eat part of it, instead eating the whole thing? Yikes.

I think Cora must have observed this, and taken exception to it. When her dishes were presented, Steingarten said that the rather oddly shaped bowl she had used for one of her dishes made it difficult to get at the food, and she shot back with this really snarky comment about how hard could it have been, since he had somehow managed to eat the entire thing?

Then, when he didn't like her pistachio icecream, Cora just hissed, "WELL JUST PRETEND IT ISN'T THERE, JEFFREY!"

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 06:37 AM

I found it particularly interesting that Pichet Ong was working as one of the sous chefs for Cora... Anyone know why?
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 07:53 AM

Anyone catch the Puff Pastry episode? The judging was hysterical...

Cora vs. Michael Psilakis. I liked the show just on account of my love of puff pastry, but man oh man -- Steingarten was in rare form! It was magnificent. Not only did he get into repeated squabbles with both of the other judges, he even started tangling with Chef Cora.

First off, he made some comment about how it might be a good idea to say a few words about whether the food actually tasted good or not, rather than vexing on about composition and presentation and balances and contrast etc... Ted Allen -- the Queer Eye food guy -- shot back with sarcasm: something about how good he thought the dish tasted, and that such a great word-smith as Steingarten would find his response adequate, or something to that effect. Steingarten's facial expressions were priceless. The editing was just perfect, too. Allen continued harping on the point, with every dish served after that point too. There was much eye-rolling... Really funny stuff.

Then, the third judge (I forget her name) asked about the sauce, and when the chef explained that it was just Béchamel, she ooh'ed and aah'ed about how great it was. Steingarten just cut her off at the knees... I guess she wasn't too knowledgeable, and perhaps shouldn't have been a judge, but man, Steingarten just burned her: "Praising the Béchamel sauce is like applauding the chef for using a knife and fork!" Allen tried coming to her rescue, and said they were there to judge the food and not judge the other judges, but Steingarten wouldn't have none of it. Of course he was there to judge the other judges; he was there to judge everything. He was like a drunk soccer hooligan: "Errr, ya foookers -- I'll take the lot of youse!"

The poor woman didn't dare say much for while after that one, except how nice things tasted. Then she made the mistake of complaining that while this dish was very nice, it was too rich... This was the second time she had made such a comment, and that was enough for Steingarten, who laid into her that if it was too rich, why didn't she just eat part of it, instead eating the whole thing? Yikes.

I think Cora must have observed this, and taken exception to it. When her dishes were presented, Steingarten said that the rather oddly shaped bowl she had used for one of her dishes made it difficult to get at the food, and she shot back with this really snarky comment about how hard could it have been, since he had somehow managed to eat the entire thing?

Then, when he didn't like her pistachio icecream, Cora just hissed, "WELL JUST PRETEND IT ISN'T THERE, JEFFREY!"

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That was a hilarious episode, indeed--especially all the cattiness on the judges' part. (I forget the third judge's name, too, but she co-hosts the third hour of the Today Show on NBC--a job she will give up, I presume, when Meredith Viera comes on board in about a month.)

For the viewer who was bummed by "Battle Hamburger" (which I will have to catch in reruns): Actually, one of the things I like about ICA is that they are using "secret ingredients" most of the viewers are familiar with and can possibly imagine themselves working with, though not necessarily at the level of the battling chefs. It's clear to me from the Food Network's promos for the show that they'd like to see their viewers aping the "Iron Chef" concept for fun*, and I don't think they'd get too many takers if the chefs were working with eel or fish heads or some of the exotic stuff the Japanese original showcased.

*Certainly Throwdown with Bobby Flay is more evidence that they are trying to turn Iron Chef into a cottage industry.
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:08 AM

Damn, I fell asleep before the judging :angry: I'll have to catch a re-airing - there's nothing I like better than Steingarten when he's "on."
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:44 AM

Steingarten was definitely in rare form last night -- he always seems to provide a bit of entertainment with dinner.

The one thing I truly miss is being educated as well as entertained. While I agree that having theme ingredients that are heavily Japanese based would probably not appeal to a wide American audience, I do think that ground beef as a secret ingredient made me feel like the show "jumped the shark" to borrow from the TV lingo. I think the thing that made the original IC interesting was that I was not only learning about foods I didn't know about, but also focusing on techniques and preparations that I as a non-Japanese person had never been exposed to. ICA seems to be edited in a much more American MTV-esque fashion and even when one of the chefs is doing something interesting, the camera never seems to stay with it long enough to see it to completion.

I do wish they would return to doing a dish preview right before the judging -- it really gave me a good sense of what each chef was offering.
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