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#31 scubadoo97

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:04 PM

Actually from a freshly dumped bourbon barrel you can get a gallon or two of decent proofed (80-90 pf ) bourbon with a water wash.

#32 tanstaafl2

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 09:46 AM

Actually from a freshly dumped bourbon barrel you can get a gallon or two of decent proofed (80-90 pf ) bourbon with a water wash.


Indeed so. Jim Beam now uses a process to pull bourbon left in the barrel and blends it with 6yo bourbon to make Devil's Cut.

I seem to recall that Jack Daniels is now building a facility to wash barrels and pull residual whiskey out to recover before shipping the barrels off to their next destination but can't find that report to confirm at the moment.
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#33 scubadoo97

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 11:33 AM

I recall last year when one distiller was asked if the wash would affect the scotch being produced with his used barrels responded with f..k em!

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 12:37 PM

I recall last year when one distiller was asked if the wash would affect the scotch being produced with his used barrels responded with f..k em!


Ah yes, that jogged my memory! It was Makers Mark, owned by Beam (and soon to be Suntory), and not Jack Daniels who recently started rinsing barrels (although JD may do it too for all I know) and it was master distiller Fred Noe who was reported to have said that.

http://chuckcowdery....blic-purse.html
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#35 GarethLangston

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:32 AM

How has this project been going?

 

I've got a 1ltr oak cask that's been charred and filled with water and a 1ltr bottle of W&N waiting to be poured in. Any advice before I start?



#36 EvergreenDan

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 12:15 AM

 Any advice before I start?

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#37 Hassouni

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 09:33 AM

How has this project been going?

 

I've got a 1ltr oak cask that's been charred and filled with water and a 1ltr bottle of W&N waiting to be poured in. Any advice before I start?

 

You're way ahead of me...this project for me is on indefinite pause  :hmmm:



#38 tanstaafl2

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 01:19 PM

I went a slightly different direction with my first attempt. Put a liter of unaged 100 proof Okolehao (a relatively new product that is a cane based reproduction of the classic Hawaiian "moonshine" that is traditionally flavored with ti plant root) into a 1 liter barrel and let it sit for about 4 months. It got rotated a quarter turn every week and for a brief period (maybe two weeks) it spent time in my garage in the August summer heat where I quickly realized it was much too hot. The rest of time was spent indoors in a more or less climate controlled environment. I don't know what the distillation proof was for the Okolehao but it wouldn't surprise me if it was at or near GNS level.

 

A bit of history here for those interested:

http://inuakena.com/...o-then-and-now/

I would love to try that 22yo version that apparently sat largely forgotten during prohibition!

 

I lost over half of my Okolehao ( I got about 400 ml out) and it got quite deeply colored so I am thinking it might have gotten a bit "overbaked" and even three to four months might be too long although its brief stint in my garage/rickhouse probably didn't help. I realized if I didn't get it out of there I was going to have little more than a tar ball at the end!

 

This is the website of the distiller:

www.islanddistillers.com (not 100% sure this distillery is still functioning to be honest)

 

It is pretty vegetal tasting to begin with and the barrel seemed to emphasize that a bit. It also had a bit of that varnish like quality I tend to get in small barrel aged spirits that are only briefly aged. But all in all it was still interesting.

 

Okolehao barrel aged.JPG

 

I think I will have another Kauka* cocktail! It is my favorite cocktail so far using Okolehao although this aged version changes the profile pretty substantially from the unaged version. I always use about a half ounce of lime juice in place of the orange and lemon juice.

 

*Kauka is the word for Doctor in Hawaiian.


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