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How Do You Feel About Buying and Using e-Cookbooks?


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#31 annabelle

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:53 AM

Heh, Jaymes. 

 

GR, the same amount of work goes into generating the content of an eBook as in a bound book, less the binding obviously.  There are still recipes to test, text to generate, indices and galleys to proof.  Additionally, the same book is often available in bound form.  I think you are overlooking the great good that has been done by foundations such as the Guttenburg Project that is cataloguing and making available online many books that are out of print and/or classics that are not widely available.

 

The only persons displaced by lack of book binding are probably working in shipping at e-vil Apple or Amazon. 



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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:49 PM

I'm a big ebook fan for reading, but still on the fence re: cookbooks.  Bought a few, haven't really used them.  I like to annotate, and I find it tedious to add notes to ebooks.  With a paper book, I can scribble all the important-to-me marginalia, quickly and easily, while cooking.  Less salt, more butter, doubled, halved, etc.  Inserting a note using a device with a virtual keyboard is still tedious to me--the two-finger, poke typing is inefficient.

I'm sort of in this camp. I have hundreds of cookbooks (real, paper ones). I have owned a Kindle since they came out, and have an ipad. I love them both. But I only have a few cookbooks on them, and don't really like them. The biggest benefit of buying an e-cookbook is for when I travel in the summer, and want to have a book with me. But lately I've just been taking a digital photo of recipes I want to have with me on my iphone or ipad. I'm actually less inclined to buy an e-cookbook than I was a few years ago. But I am still buying real cookbooks.



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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:23 AM

I have tired of lugging and storing books like many above, and have disposed of far more than I currently own. I think many of us hang onto books as long as we can, and then perform triage, keeping the ones that are from loved ones, rare first editions, autographed or otherwise have sentimental or practical value to us. Of the books that I chose to ship to Italy, over 90% are food and wine-related, overwhelmingly cookbooks. I do not recall throwing out a single cookbook over the years, and indeed, bought duplicates of those misplaced over the years (or lost in divorce!) and before moving here, to have copies of the most important in both countries. Desire to read certain books in English has made me an ebook purchaser and reader, but cookbooks are different. Easy summer reading is one thing, and probably best served by ebooks, but cookbooks are reference books that provide more ultimate satisfaction than any others. Language per se is not the issue (my French and Italan are both good enough to use cookbooks written in those languages, and I have many), but rather, the extra hoops that I must now jump through and extra expense to have hard copies of things like Jerusalem and the new edition of Charcuterie. Thus, I bought both as ebooks. It will be a fair test. However, I wonder if I will end up replacing one or both with hard copies someday!

Pastameshugana, you did make a point that resonates with me, the idea that you can use your cell phone to pull ingredient lists while shopping. As I have gotten older, I find that I make notes or send myself e-mails more frequently to avoid forgetting things that I need to buy or do, and access to recipes and even entire cookbooks takes that to a whole new level...
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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:17 PM

I doubt I would ever buy an ecookbook.  If there is a particular recipe I want to investigate with an eye toward making it, I'll look it up online.  But when I'm bored with my current kitchen endeavors and am looking for inspiration, I want to sit down with an actual book and leaf through it, jumping ahead, or back, as the mood suits.  Also, like others, I do a lot of scribbling in my books.

 

I buy other sorts of ebooks - novels, biographies, reference books, etc.  But have never even been tempted to buy an ecookbook.

 

Don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

This describes my habits pretty much exactly. I have a couple of cookbooks in my collection already that I might have considered buying in ebook format in addition to the actual book, because they're the kind of cookbook you can really comfortably sit down and READ, and due to arthritis in my hands and wrists I find ebooks more physically comfortable for that kind of thing, but there's just something about having an actual physical book that seems to be more inspiring somehow.

 

(I also like to write lists and notes by hand, for similar creativity-related reasons. Sometimes I type them up to make a final draft, if I need to be able to share the information easily with other people who might not be able to read my handwriting, but the initial list? Paper and pen.)



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:10 AM

I am chuckling as I write this.  I had to go to Torino yesterday, so I decided to go to the Porta Palazzo market and stock up on meats and vegetables for Thai cooking.  I was in a hurry, so I ended up taking 5 cookbooks with me, picking the recipes and then making the shopping list during the hour-plus journey.  The cookbooks were not available as e-books in any event, but after sudden stops sent the books flying at me a couple of times, I could envison having been able to do the entire exercise on a tablet... 


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 06:12 PM

I am chuckling as I write this.  I had to go to Torino yesterday, so I decided to go to the Porta Palazzo market and stock up on meats and vegetables for Thai cooking.  I was in a hurry, so I ended up taking 5 cookbooks with me, picking the recipes and then making the shopping list during the hour-plus journey.  The cookbooks were not available as e-books in any event, but after sudden stops sent the books flying at me a couple of times, I could envison having been able to do the entire exercise on a tablet... 

 

My ideal would probably be a package deal where you could get the book and an ebook copy for something less than buying them separately, so you'd have the book for when you preferred that, and the ebook to be used as a more portable reference.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 12:25 AM

For me it does not matter whether i read it on E-books or the normal books. According to me if you have a passion of reading then can adjust with whatever you like. Also I will say E-book is better than normal books not in terms of reading but say for instance if you are out on a vacation, or tour, travelling some where instead of carrying the bunch of books (which will obviously weigh more) i would prefer E-books..



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 03:13 AM

I am chuckling as I write this.  I had to go to Torino yesterday, so I decided to go to the Porta Palazzo market and stock up on meats and vegetables for Thai cooking.  I was in a hurry, so I ended up taking 5 cookbooks with me, picking the recipes and then making the shopping list during the hour-plus journey.  The cookbooks were not available as e-books in any event, but after sudden stops sent the books flying at me a couple of times, I could envison having been able to do the entire exercise on a tablet... 

 

My ideal would probably be a package deal where you could get the book and an ebook copy for something less than buying them separately, so you'd have the book for when you preferred that, and the ebook to be used as a more portable reference.

 

 

I am chuckling as I write this.  I had to go to Torino yesterday, so I decided to go to the Porta Palazzo market and stock up on meats and vegetables for Thai cooking.  I was in a hurry, so I ended up taking 5 cookbooks with me, picking the recipes and then making the shopping list during the hour-plus journey.  The cookbooks were not available as e-books in any event, but after sudden stops sent the books flying at me a couple of times, I could envison having been able to do the entire exercise on a tablet... 

 

My ideal would probably be a package deal where you could get the book and an ebook copy for something less than buying them separately, so you'd have the book for when you preferred that, and the ebook to be used as a more portable reference.

That makes great economic sense, too.  Wine journals and no doubt other magazines do that, some with complete double counting (on the spurious theory that the two products really are different).  It would be an additional source of revenue for authors and everyone else in the supply chain, none of whom expect that one person would buy both formats.  Of course, cutting the other way is the number of publications moving away from the expense and trouble of hard copy as quickly as they can...


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Posted 03 September 2013 - 07:51 AM

This just in: Amazon has just announced a program called 'MatchBook' that appears to offer discounted and sometimes free digital versions of physical books you own.

 

Google 'Kindle Matchbook' for the news stories.


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Posted 26 September 2013 - 01:45 AM

Naomi Duguid's ebooks are steeply discounted this month (for a few more days), on Amazon and elsewhere. See http://www.workman.c...ook-club/deals/

 

Browsing "other recommendations" from any of these books on Amazon, one sees other interesting books for a song.

 

My buying patterns in used bookstores are primarily limited by my limited shelf space and my limited attention. With some notable ebooks costing even less, shelf space is not a problem, but attention is more of a problem.

 

I do think the Amazon programmers are being fools by not supporting a uniform folder structure synchronized between all devices and apps. Some people churn through trashy novels, only to abandon them like yesterday's newspaper. For people who collect books to keep, returning years later to books they know they own, Amazon's lack of organizational support for one's collection is going to limit their best customers. We'll simply slow down, there's a limit to the number of books one can appreciate owning with their current file systems, akin to "flat" file systems of the earliest personal computers. Apple learned this lesson nearly 30 years ago, only to realize there's money in keeping iPod interfaces as stupid as possible. Amazon seems mired in this latter view.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

I prefer using non-electronic cookbooks whenever possible.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 01:26 PM

I have a mix of the two. I still prefer leafing through hard-copy books and magazines for inspiration, and I find it easier - well, slightly less risky, anyway - to have a cookbook or printout sitting on the counter than to have my tablet on the counter. (I've had to replace the keypad/docking station because of an expensive mishap with a fresh batch of salad dressing.) I also find it easier to put intelligible bookmarks in magazines and cookbooks, although they're usually just random pieces of scrap paper, or occasionally color coded Post-It ™ notes.

Since we began traveling so much, I've started down the path of ecookbooks for their ease of transport. I find I can get just as wrapped up in a good electronic read as with a good paper read, and the programs do allow for bookmarks of a sort. Inkling has just released their Android beta platform, and that's supposed to allow notes to be added. I'll be interested to see how well it works.

The biggest risk, I find, is forgetting that I have a particular book. At first I thought it was peculiar to the electronic format - I don't keep seeing it when I look at the bookshelf - but, in fact, I've rediscovered old favorite hard-copy books too, as in: 'wait, when did I get that?!' :-D

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 03:02 AM

 E books are really good to work with 

  At work I use an Android based Tablet wrapped in a ziplock baggie.   Every station in our kitchen is being set up for using tablets instead of paper/ white boards/ cookbooks. It seems a very easy way to send recipes to a CDP ( as well as prep lists)

 We are setting up a kitchen Cloud drive so all the cooks can access what ever they need.

 At home I prefer paper to read, unless I am looking for a very specific recipe.



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Posted 14 April 2014 - 06:27 AM

While I exclusively buy e-books now, the exception is cookbooks. I need the real thing when I'm studying recipes or when cooking. I have a few e-cookbooks but they just don't work well for me, I need to be able to flip back and forth thru the pages.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 06:11 AM

I'm loving a mixture of both. I love the ability to search on my ipad through cookbooks. I suppose I get more reference type cookbooks on the ipad.

Since my discovery of 'eat my books'website the paper based versions are now more useful then ever too.

If I love the book I'd rather have paper based for example Stephanie Alexander's tome 'the cooks companion' I have the paper book and I have the app. I prefer the paper but love searching the app when I'm out as a reference.

There is room for both.

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 03:40 PM

Just a quick question...

 

Is there any other option to purchase "E-books" besides using a Visa/M/C via internet?


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:21 PM

I have hundreds of cookbooks and love perusing them when I am in that mood.  Have not found e-cookbooks as enticing.  I do have a Kindle and have had one for 5 years or so.  Have hundreds of books on that but only fiction and reference.  Love it for when I travel!  Audiobooks and the e-reader is my choice for travel and reading.  When food is my focus, I need my books.  Love having them on my shelves, they are part of the decoration of my kitchen, they are there when I need inspiration. 


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:45 PM

Just a quick question...
 
Is there any other option to purchase "E-books" besides using a Visa/M/C via internet?


I can't imagine how else they could be delivered to your device. Or are you asking if there are alternate payment options?
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:32 PM

I can't imagine how else they could be delivered to your device. Or are you asking if there are alternate payment options?


I think he's asking about alternate payment options. Gift cards are an option: they're basically prepaid debit cards that have a set amount and aren't linked to your bank account. Amazon has them, and I'll be the others have them also.

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:34 PM

Let us not forget: a lot of libraries now have e-books on loan, including e-cookbooks. Just as with a hard-copy loan, you can borrow the book for a set time period. Sometimes I've gone on to purchase the e-book for myself after the loan ended, and sometimes not.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 05:46 AM

I think he's asking about alternate payment options. Gift cards are an option: they're basically prepaid debit cards that have a set amount and aren't linked to your bank account. Amazon has them, and I'll be the others have them also.

And our local indie bookstore also sells ebooks, so you can walk in and purchase them using cash (or any other payment method the store accepts).


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 02:24 PM

For me ecookbooks are basically a necessity. I live in a urban condo so space is limited so it was either toys (where am I going to put my chamber sealer, hello!) or cookbooks. Moving to ebooks was a no brainer.

 

I also like taking my cookbooks or favorite recipes with me, so I have most of my personal recipes all stored online in dropbox and copies of my ebooks on my tablet. Sharing is easy too. You can always do a screen grab or screenshot of your recipe and email it to someone and voila! instant copy of the recipe. 



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 02:18 AM

I still prefer paper books, especially for cook books, photography books etc.
BUT they are difficult to get here, the choice is very limited and they are hugely expensive, so most books I buy are ebooks and I put them on my laptop, kindle and android.
I prefer to read the normal books and cookbooks without pictures on my kindle, the ones with lots of pics on the android tablet and I use the laptop to convert them all into pdf files and print out the recipes I like (so I can make notes, additional comments, conversions into metric etc etc).

There are a couple of cook books that I own on kindle and of which I bought the paper version in a later stage. These are mainly the reference books.

Having said that: Ebooks are absolutely ideal for travelling! And I like the option to change the font (as my eye sight isn't getting any better either)

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 08:15 AM

For me it depends on the book. Now all my bread cookbooks that I consider "classics" I buy on paper (ie: Crust and Crumb, The Bread Bakers Apprentice). But for some others that are ones that I like, bought, but don't see it becoming a classic, then I get the ebook. (like diet cookbooks, 20 meals with 20 ingredients, etc LOL)


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 07:29 AM

At work I use a lot of manuals regulations and reference guides. In my travels I used to lug some of this around then I loaded it on my iPad and not only is the material always upto date it's always accessible and searchable.

Fantastic

Same with cooking I do not like buying cook books unless they come out as ebooks.

I am a huge fan of Modernist Cuisine. I like the inking app with Modernist Cuisine at Home. I like the "original" Modernist. Cuisine even better but it's so big and hard to reference I tend to not use it much.

In terms of my iPad getting dirty - who cares? Electronics are disposable items use it abuse it the apple warranty is great and when it runs out just buy a new one.

The key for me is easy access to the reference material. I am not big into fancy pictures bit I a huge into under sting the SICENCE behind the cooking process and making sure I use it to achieve my desired results.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 07:48 AM

At work I use a lot of manuals regulations and reference guides. In my travels I used to lug some of this around then I loaded it on my iPad and not only is the material always upto date it's always accessible and searchable.
Fantastic
Same with cooking I do not like buying cook books unless they come out as ebooks.
I am a huge fan of Modernist Cuisine. I like the inking app with Modernist Cuisine at Home. I like the "original" Modernist. Cuisine even better but it's so big and hard to reference I tend to not use it much.
In terms of my iPad getting dirty - who cares? Electronics are disposable items use it abuse it the apple warranty is great and when it runs out just buy a new one.
The key for me is easy access to the reference material. I am not big into fancy pictures but I a huge into understanding and using the SICENCE behind the cooking process and making sure I use it to achieve my desired results. Recipes are OK as a starting point but the real key is the understanding of the process to achieve my desired result.
Tonight crispy salmon !!!!


I am not sure there are many of us who can afford to simply discard a $700 iPad.
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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:37 PM

My Kindle has packed in after just a year. That never happened with a real book.



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 01:03 PM

My Kindle/iPad allows me to make the text large enough so I can read it! That never happened with a real book! Would add a :-) but don't know how! Just saying.
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Posted 08 June 2014 - 01:08 PM

In terms of my iPad getting dirty - who cares? Electronics are disposable items use it abuse it the apple warranty is great and when it runs out just buy a new one.

 
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Posted 08 June 2014 - 01:23 PM

 

My Kindle/iPad allows me to make the text large enough so I can read it! 

 

Mine used to. Now it doesn't have any text. I have never had text disappear from a real book. Had a few books disappear, though :wink:

 

When I can't read a book, I put my spectacles on! Or dig out a magnifier. 

 

Excellent post GlorifiedRice